Histogen show "cosmetic" results oct 2012 update

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Originally Posted by Dan26

histogen alone cannot provide that much regrowth i promise you that, cant go from a NW 3+ to a NW 1

Ok I am convinced now

[hairysituation]

Originally Posted by hellouser

Not entirely true.

It depends for everyone, some men will only lose a portion of their hairline while others will go completely bald. Hair loss isnt the same for everyone. I've developed my grandfather's hairline which is a pretty obvious 'M' pattern, it came in *rapidly* about 6 years ago and has been more or less the same since. Will it progress to a full NW7? I hope not. If its basically slowed down to a stopping point, will I qualify for a touch up now?

And it definitely is possible to go back to a teenage hairline:

http://dft.ba/-rahal

Someone else posted that, but that is an incredible result. I'm considering getting Gho + Rahal done... not sure which to get first.....

That someone else was me. I really have researched transplants and have a good idea of what´s realistic, and what´s not. Dr. Keser also seem to do incredible teenage hairlines. He has exceptional yield, plus he only does FUE exclusively.

Anyway, I think the best results was from Alvi Armani when he still was performing FUSS. I mean check this one out. Pretty sick. It should be noted that the density behind his hairline increased after using Minoxidil and Finasteride. However, the hairline speaks for itself.

[hellouser]

Originally Posted by hairysituation

That someone else was me. I really have researched transplants and have a good idea of what´s realistic, and what´s not. Dr. Keser also seem to do incredible teenage hairlines. He has exceptional yield, plus he only does FUE exclusively.

Anyway, I think the best results was from Alvi Armani when he still was performing FUSS. I mean check this one out. Pretty sick. It should be noted that the density behind his hairline increased after using Minoxidil and Finasteride. However, the hairline speaks for itself.

That hairline is a little *too* perfect. Although I'd rather have that than what I got now, but I think the one you posted before is much better.

Its incredible what some HT doctors can do.....

[yeahyeahyeah]

Originally Posted by Dan26

Ya bro i was saying that WITHOUT a HT it is unlikely to go back to your teenage hairline. Something like histogen can only take you so far, a HT for the frontal area/headline if you want that teenage hairline back lol.

And btw I hate how HT places take before photos with different lighting, background, facial expression of patient lol, it annoys the shit outta me

That guy looked so happy with his new teenage hairline, than again, I would be too!

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Originally Posted by hellouser

That hairline is a little *too* perfect. Although I'd rather have that than what I got now, but I think the one you posted before is much better.

Its incredible what some HT doctors can do.....

I wonder why more HTs are not like that, that result seems like the exception, not the norm.

[2020]

If you notice every other pharmaceutical treatment for hair loss (whether topical or per-oral) requires at least once daily dosing. For topicals it's usually twice a day.

Histogen is a sub-epidermal injection which is ESSENTIALLY a topical.

Why did they choose this rather weird method of application -- injecting chemicals into the skin -- rather than a topical lotion?

is it really? If so then that would explain why they're doing injections first - they don't trust people with topicals

[hairysituation]

Originally Posted by yeahyeahyeah

I wonder why more HTs are not like that, that result seems like the exception, not the norm.

1. Because the yield is pretty inconsistant when you are exceeding 50 grafts pr square centimeter. This is at least the case with ONE treatment. I do believe that yield become more consistant regarding dense packing with multiplie treatments.

But make no mistakes, the best clinics can get pretty consistant results even with dense packing in one treatment.

2. Also, many clinics think it´s unethical to make a dense juvenile hairline. The old supply vs. demand issue.

3. The fear of the hairline becoming "unatural" as the patient gets older. (I personally think this argument is a lot of bullcrap)

[yeahyeahyeah]

Originally Posted by hairysituation

1. Because the yield is pretty inconsistant when you are exceeding 50 grafts pr square centimeter. This is at least the case with ONE treatment. I do believe that yield become more consistant regarding dense packing with multiplie treatments.

But make no mistakes, the best clinics can get pretty consistant results even with dense packing in one treatment.

2. Also, many clinics think it´s unethical to make a dense juvenile hairline. The old supply vs. demand issue.

3. The fear of the hairline becoming "unatural" as the patient gets older. (I personally think this argument is a lot of bullcrap)

The game will change if Aderans and Histogen report good results in 2013.

With Gho in the pipeline it is probably a good time to restore your NW1, the only thing stopping HT doctors is donor supply or the balding process accelerating.

[hairysituation]

Originally Posted by yeahyeahyeah

The game will change if Aderans and Histogen report good results in 2013.

With Gho in the pipeline it is probably a good time to restore your NW1, the only thing stopping HT doctors is donor supply or the balding process accelerating.

Wishful thinking, my friend. Histogen could work with maintaning, but they are years away. Aderans won´t work, reallstically. I will not start a Gho debate here, but let´s just say I don´t believe it for a second.

However, OC seems promising, some users on HairLossTalk have reported good effects. But the safety profile is not yet established (topically), and there are very few people who have tried it.

I say the best approach today is a transplanted juvenile hairline with a hairpiece behind. I will use this approach, and get away from these forums. Of course it´s given that my transplant is sucessful, which is not certain at all.

It´s not a perfect solution, but beggars can´t be choosers.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Originally Posted by hairysituation

Wishful thinking, my friend. Histogen could work with maintaning, but they are years away. Aderans won´t work, reallstically. I will not start a Gho debate here, but let´s just say I don´t believe it for a second.

However, OC seems promising, some users on HairLossTalk have reported good effects. But the safety profile is not yet established (topically), and there are very few people who have tried it.

I say the best approach today is a transplanted juvenile hairline with a hairpiece behind. I will use this approach, and get away from these forums. Of course it´s given that my transplant is sucessful, which is not certain at all.

It´s not a perfect solution, but beggars can´t be choosers.

Depends on your rate of hairloss.

They guy with the HT earlier for example, my hair is noway as bad as his, and I am 27 now.


Say you are a NW2, and you receed slowly (yes it happens), with nothing becoming noticable past 30+, you can easily restore you hair and use histogen, which I think will be out in 2015.