Histogen Update - Spencer Kobren Speaks With Dr. Craig L. Ziering

[534623]

Originally Posted by JJacobs152

Seems like Histogen has had good results. They just released their latest press release article online. However, they're results are best seen between the age groups of 40-59.

This is the original source/press release:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/10/prweb10032346.htm

Female result (before/after):
http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2012/10...0-%2019wks.jpg

Male result (before/after):
http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2012/10...20-%2024wk.jpg

Convincing? Impressed? Let me know ...

The male patient -I think- is more than 40 years. Does it mean a young patient will see -0 result?

[JJacobs152]

Originally Posted by 534623

This is the original source/press release:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2012/10/prweb10032346.htm

Female result (before/after):
http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2012/10...0-%2019wks.jpg

Male result (before/after):
http://ww1.prweb.com/prfiles/2012/10...20-%2024wk.jpg

Convincing? Impressed? Let me know ...

The male patient -I think- is more than 40 years. Does it mean a young patient will see -0 result?

You fail to comprehend that Histogen's method is a completely new and innovative method of helping BOTH sexes with andro. alopecia. An injection form of medium, that hasn't showed any side effects as of yet. Lets run through history real quick and see what the current treatments and their side effects are, shall we?

Minoxidil - potent vasodilator that can make you hypotensive, causing tachycardia, and other array of symptoms.
Finasteride - people have talked about ED, to the point where they've fallen into depression.
RU - nothing about this can even be said, since there is hardly any data.

I'm not sure, but can females with andro aloopecia take fin - no they can't, especially if they plan on having children, since the drug is a teratogen.

I'd say the results from those pictures is pretty good, taking into consideration what is currently available on the market. Not sure why you're trying to bash their results.

Atleast, unlike a certain HT physician overseas, they're providing well documented pictures, protocols, and willing to let the rest of the world see their plans and future outlook on hair "regeneration".

[rdawg]

This is great news IMO, a true help to those with moderate hairloss including in the temples. So far(not sure if they may tinker with it to make it better) it seems perfect for those in the NW1-4 range.

I suppose this means Phase III is going to be approved?

I do have to ask how long these hairs last though? do they just get lost without something like Fin being used?

quite excited to see a product that actually causes noticeable growth, even if it's not a fullout cure, combining this with Minoxidil+Fin may get a NW3-4 back to a NW1-2.

A little glimmer of hope came out today, I'll be getting some of my hair back with this stuff within a few years!

[The Alchemist]

Originally Posted by JJacobs152

I'd say the results from those pictures is pretty good, taking into consideration what is currently available on the market. Not sure why you're trying to bash their results.

Atleast, unlike a certain HT physician overseas, they're providing well documented pictures, protocols, and willing to let the rest of the world see their plans and future outlook on hair "regeneration".

Think you answered your own question here. Ironman's posting frequency peaks whenever news comes out that indicates the future of his employers business may not be in such great shape. With results like Histogen just presented, i expect his posting to reach a fevered pitch and level of hysteria that hasn't been seen before.

A mean of 40% new terminals is phenomenal! And with a response rate of nearly 90%. That is great news!

[UK_]

Some people know me as a huge sceptic.

However, I have never heard a legitimate company in 20 years of hair loss research make a statement like this that I actually believed:

"Importantly, the efficacy of HSC is not limited by hair loss region. The Phase I/II clinical trial has shown noted new hair growth in subjects treated in all regions of the scalp, including temporal recession, mid-scalp and vertex. Subjects receiving HSC in the temporal recession, which is known to be more difficult to treat than other areas of hair loss, saw marked improvement in terminal hair count, with a mean increase of 22.6% at 12 weeks and 25.2% at the 24 week time point."

I remember a few months ago we were all wondering if Histogen (HSC) would even work in the temporal regions - and there we have it, our first clinical study showing a treatment being effective on the most difficult area to treat... the temples!!

[Ted]

I got very disappointed from the pics.
The first pic of the woman are overexposed probably taken with a flash. In the same lightning conditions the hair would probably look exactly the same.

The first pic of the man have his hairs brushed to the sides to reveal the thin areas, whereas in the second pic the hair is brushed to cover the thin areas.

I really high hope for Histogen but these pics have made me loose all trust in them.
This ****ing industry stinks!

Edit. The angels are also different in the pics which makes the hair look thicker

[Artista]

@JJacobs152 Thank you for posting this my friend

[The Alchemist]

Originally Posted by UK_

Some people know me as a huge sceptic.

However, I have never heard a legitimate company in 20 years of hair loss research make a statement like this that I actually believed:



I remember a few months ago we were all wondering if Histogen (HSC) would even work in the temporal regions - and there we have it, our first clinical study showing a treatment being effective on the most difficult area to treat... the temples!!

Agreed - the temples are the first to go. Most balding men lose them in their 20s. So those patients in this study being at least 40 yrs of age and getting growth in an area have most likely been skin bald in that area for at least a decade, maybe more. That takes a sledge hammer to the theory of follicles reaching a "point of no return", which was being tossed around on the various forums.

Hopefully they can push this through and get it released into Asian markets early.

[rdawg]

Originally Posted by Ted

I got very disappointed from the pics.
The first pic of the woman are overexposed probably taken with a flash. In the same lightning conditions the hair would probably look exactly the same.

The first pic of the man have his hairs brushed to the sides to reveal the thin areas, whereas in the second pic the hair is brushed to cover the thin areas.

I had really high hope for Histogen but these pics have made me loose all trust in them.
This ****ing industry stinks!

I dont know what you're looking at but the mans hair is clearly thicker and he definitely has more hair. That is not simply 'brushing' it to cover up spots.

dont expect the first actual growth product to give you a full head of hair within a few months, the fact that this gives NOTICEABLE growth at all is fantastic, there's nothing on the market it like it. Especially in the temple region.

Is this gonna help a NW7? I'm not sure, what happens if they repeat the dose again at one year? what if they did it monthly? questions that could be answered. Maybe it gets even better as more time goes by?

either way, perfect as is for moderate hairloss sufferers.

[Ted]

If you believe in the numbers you should also believe in trx2's numbers that claim 50% (if I remember correct) increase after 18 months.