Dr Cole on HST-Gho needs not to fear getting scrutinized

[hairysituation]

You`re right regarding Histogen, but wrong regarding Gho.
You did however not state your opinion on Team Tokyo aka Tsuji-lab.
Let`s hear you opinion on them. Much more interesting than discussing hope stimulation bullshit and hyped scalp-to-body-hair transformations.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Originally Posted by hairysituation

You`re right regarding Histogen, but wrong regarding Gho.
You did however not state your opinion on Team Tokyo aka Tsuji-lab.
Let`s hear you opinion on them. Much more interesting than discussing hope stimulation bullshit and hyped scalp-to-body-hair transformations.

You guys are such negative party poopers.

Histogen have been the only company that have regrown thinning hair.

So what if it is another minoxidil, it has proven to be much better than it. Have you not seen the PDF with the temple hair?

[Jasari]

Originally Posted by yeahyeahyeah

You guys are such negative party poopers.

Histogen have been the only company that have regrown thinning hair.

So what if it is another minoxidil, it has proven to be much better than it. Have you not seen the PDF with the temple hair?

I think with any doctor a non surgical treatment which regrows a full head of hair, or at a bare minimum completely halts the hair loss process will destroy business. I'm not sure of the entire studies on Histogen but if for example it halts the hair loss process it essentially means zero clients from every person under 20 once the treatment arrives. I wouldn't image the injections would be the sole domain of hair transplant surgeons, likely a range of professionals would be able to administer them. This would mean that they would have very limited work comparative to what they had and essentially a wasted medical specialisation.

Most hair transplant surgeons wouldn't indicate any positive quotes towards a potential cure in the near future because most hair transplant patients (myself included) get a transplant because the foreseeable wait time until a treatment seems too far away. Personally if I know i can halt the hair loss process (minimum) in a few years I wont bother with a second transplant.

[didi]

Back to the subject guys, thread is about how Dr Gho is unwilling to share technology with one of the most gifted fue doc Dr Cole,

in my opinion dr Gho gave lame reasons as to why he isnt willing to do so, its kinda childish, I mean it almost seems like Gho wants HST to remain as secret as possible...hrmmm..and we on this forum are guilty of blaming HT industry, fue/fut docs,Spencer etc but when you think abt it it is Dr Gho who doesnt want hst to be known...who else would be better ambassador for hst than dr Cole?



There is something that stinks abt the whole thing n we want to know what it is, it makes no sense in the age when companies spend zillions of $$$ on advertizing and marketing some crappy product, Gho is refusing to let Dr Cole make hst known worldwide for FREE..imagine what would it do for hasci if they get Dr Coles endorment and blessing?

[534623]

Originally Posted by didi

Gho is refusing to let Dr Cole make hst known worldwide

hrmmm … maybe that’s exactly THE point why Dr. Gho refuses to get in contact with Dr. Cole (or other “well-known” doctors in this field) – based on the behaviour and well-known history in particular in this business.

For example …

By Dr. Rassman

The long term results with FUE (particularly on donor area damage in extensive FUE grafting) is not yet in. When we introduced the FUE technique in 2002 at the international meeting and in the Journal of Dermatological Surgery, there was not too much of an initial reaction, because the doctors who tried it quickly failed to get good quality grafts out.
I remember two doctors in particular (names withheld) — one called me the first day after I returned from the meeting and I spent an hour on the phone explaining the subtle nuances that made it work for us. He thanked me, then quickly announced his new “pioneering invention”, the FUE technique, both on his website and through various press releases. Clearly he did not have the time to do more than one procedure and I felt sorry for that patient, a victim of a doctor’s greed for fame and money.

Here is another such example, which came up recently:

"World's first stem cell hair transplant clinic"

Anyway, as you know, “snakes” and idiots are everywhere and in every business (that doesn’t mean that I’m thinking that Dr. Cole is such an individual) and you can trust practically nobody, especially if there is a lot of money involved.

If I were Dr. Gho, I would do exactly the same what he is doing now - and what he is SAYING (in the interview Kobren/Gho-26:00):

Training of totally “over minded (young) persons” – and “most of them are NOT in (or from) the hair transplantation business”.

In other words, I would try to set up a completely NEW GENERATION of real HAIR specialists/experts – and surely not a banal “from-A-to-B-hair-follicle-transplanters-army” just due to “greed for fame and money”. And finally, everything based on a SOLID BASIS; that means, it doesn’t matter how long it takes to accomplish this vision, because “fast” and/or "big" doesn’t mean “better”. Anyway, that’s what I think what Dr. Gho is basically trying to accomplish.

By the way, when Dr. Gho says “training of dermatologists etc” – it doesn’t mean that it will be the intention of all these persons to open their own (typical hair transplant)clinic anywhere. These doctors are just ABLE to perform HST procedures “just in case” or sometimes in specific institutions, hospitals or burn victim centers etc where they normally/regularly work. These doctors are definitely NOT one of these doctors who will show you these typical (for this industry) “before/after” photos on message forums.

[hairysituation]

Originally Posted by 534623

hrmmm … maybe that’s exactly THE point why Dr. Gho refuses to get in contact with Dr. Cole (or other “well-known” doctors in this field) – based on the behaviour and well-known history in particular in this business.

For example …


Here is another such example, which came up recently:

"World's first stem cell hair transplant clinic"

Anyway, as you know, “snakes” and idiots are everywhere and in every business (that doesn’t mean that I’m thinking that Dr. Cole is such an individual) and you can trust practically nobody, especially if there is a lot of money involved.

If I were Dr. Gho, I would do exactly the same what he is doing now - and what he is SAYING (in the interview Kobren/Gho-26:00):

Training of totally “over minded (young) persons” – and “most of them are NOT in (or from) the hair transplantation business”.

In other words, I would try to set up a completely NEW GENERATION of real HAIR specialists/experts – and surely not a banal “from-A-to-B-hair-follicle-transplanters-army” just due to “greed for fame and money”. And finally, everything based on a SOLID BASIS; that means, it doesn’t matter how long it takes to accomplish this vision, because “fast” and/or "big" doesn’t mean “better”. Anyway, that’s what I think what Dr. Gho is basically trying to accomplish.

By the way, when Dr. Gho says “training of dermatologists etc” – it doesn’t mean that it will be the intention of all these persons to open their own (typical hair transplant)clinic anywhere. These doctors are just ABLE to perform HST procedures “just in case” or sometimes in specific institutions, hospitals or burn victim centers etc where they normally/regularly work. These doctors are definitely NOT one of these doctors who will show you these typical (for this industry) “before/after” photos on message forums.

Rationalization.

[ccmethinning]

Originally Posted by hairysituation

Rationalization.

No, it's the truth.

[didi]

Gho is risking big time by going 'slow', imo he has a few years left before others come up with something similar or even better, time is not on his side and he is aware of that.

Now is the time to make big $$ as clock is ticking away.

I dont buy an argument that US regulations prevent him from bringing hst to the states, there is so many other countries around the world where regulations dont exist, all it takes is to open up clinic and train doctors.

The way things are now is that big name doctors in HT industry are either sceptics, think that Gho is spliting grafts or when they show interest Gho refuses to train them, open minded 'new' doctors are yet to graduate hst academy...

I keep asking the same question 'where is the army of open minded doctors that was waiting in line up to be trained'...or perhaps splitting grafts takes ages to master

[Maradona]

I can't believe people are still arguing about this.

It is really stupid to argue the fact that Gho can multiply hairs.

Proof has been shown beyond doubt that there is multiplication but there is no proof of norwood 7 to norwood 1 and I doubt there will ever be.

[Jasari]

Originally Posted by Maradona

I can't believe people are still arguing about this.

It is really stupid to argue the fact that Gho can multiply hairs.

Proof has been shown beyond doubt that there is multiplication but there is no proof of norwood 7 to norwood 1 and I doubt there will ever be.

If/when I have another transplant I'd go with GHO. Not because I have researched or know without a doubt whether multiplication works but on the mere basis that there is no scarring and is significantly less intrusive. Combined with the fact that it is actually cheaper than a vast number of current fue specialists I dont think there is any risk in taking that option. Yours worst case scenario is a scarless transfer of grafts.

In terms of a norwood 7 to norwood 1; I highly doubt there will ever be pictures. First you need a norwood 7 which is rare in and of itself, then you need said norwood 7 to have the 14k per year for 8 straight years, the dedication to commit and finally documented results appearing nearly a decade down the track.

Personally if i was a norwood 7 it would seem like a mountain of a task that i'm just not up for.