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Old 09-09-2012, 04:29 PM   #11
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I like the fue + toppik idea
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Old 09-09-2012, 04:30 PM   #12
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You don't know enough about this to give advice.

I just came onto your thread out of morbid curiosity as to what your twisted mind had written now.

If you are balding at your very young age, your going to be a NW6-7, your donor will thin at that point, and so will all the hair that you had transplanted.

You will never reach your goal, ever.
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Old 09-09-2012, 04:32 PM   #13
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Holocaust exaggerated?
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Old 09-09-2012, 04:35 PM   #14
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That's your goal? lmfao!

Half decent head of hair.......can't see anything else redeeming though
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Old 09-09-2012, 04:40 PM   #15
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I've been over this before. BDD is a non-illness. You can't have BDD if you have legitimate flaws in your appearance.

What makes you think you don't have BDD for wanting a HT, and yet I do because I'm also willing to do facial surgery and go to the gym? It's as if this entire forum forgets that HT's are, by and large, a cosmetic procedure no different and no less vain than rhinoplasty or any of that.

Enjoy your hypocrisy.
Being upset or concerned about your hair loss and becoming a part of a community of guys who are going through the same thing is very different than being obsessed with your appearance to the point of insanity like you are. You are not well Highlander, I don't say this to be mean, it's just extremely obvious to everyone who reads your posts. I feel for you Highlander, but you must realize that there is something seriously wrong with you, don’t you? Sp8rky hit the nail on the head, your knowledge on the subject is extremely limited and your assumptions are based on hearsay and not on personal knowledge. If you are balding at your age, unless propecia really works well for you, having a hair transplant will be a huge mistake that will most likely emotionally cripple you far worse than your hair loss now. The best thing you can do for yourself is to continue taking Propecia, get off of these forums and work on your illness. Continue on with the gym and other healthy pursuits, but stay off of the hair loss forums and maybe find another forum to help you deal with your real issues.
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Old 09-09-2012, 04:46 PM   #16
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Being upset or concerned about your hair loss and becoming a part of a community of guys who are going through the same thing is very different than being obsessed with your appearance to the point of insanity like you are. You are not well Highlander, I don't say this to be mean, it's just extremely obvious to everyone who reads your posts. I feel for you Highlander, but you must realize that there is something seriously wrong with you, don’t you? Sp8rky hit the nail on the head, your knowledge on the subject is extremely limited and your assumptions are based on hearsay and not on personal knowledge. If you are balding at your age, unless propecia really works well for you, having a hair transplant will be a huge mistake that will most likely emotionally cripple you far worse than your hair loss now. The best thing you can do for yourself is to continue taking Propecia, get off of these forums and work on your illness. Continue on with the gym and other healthy pursuits, but stay off of the hair loss forums and maybe find another forum to help you deal with your real issues.

Now that is good advice
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Old 09-09-2012, 05:09 PM   #17
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Great advice Delphi! I hope he takes it to heart.

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Being upset or concerned about your hair loss and becoming a part of a community of guys who are going through the same thing is very different than being obsessed with your appearance to the point of insanity like you are. You are not well Highlander, I don't say this to be mean, it's just extremely obvious to everyone who reads your posts. I feel for you Highlander, but you must realize that there is something seriously wrong with you, don’t you? Sp8rky hit the nail on the head, your knowledge on the subject is extremely limited and your assumptions are based on hearsay and not on personal knowledge. If you are balding at your age, unless propecia really works well for you, having a hair transplant will be a huge mistake that will most likely emotionally cripple you far worse than your hair loss now. The best thing you can do for yourself is to continue taking Propecia, get off of these forums and work on your illness. Continue on with the gym and other healthy pursuits, but stay off of the hair loss forums and maybe find another forum to help you deal with your real issues.
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Old 09-09-2012, 05:17 PM   #18
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Highlander, your statements about BDD just aren't accurate. BDD isn't present when someone acknowledges or wants to repair a legitimate imperfection in appearance; rather, it addresses when a preoccupation with said imperfections become crippling or when a person loses the ability to see themselves objectively or from another's point of view. I.e., a drastic exaggeration of the degree of a physical flaw evinces BDD, even if the flaw itself is real.

For example: I had a rhinoplasty and mentoplasty last year at age 27. I'd hated my profile since I was about 10-12 and thought my nose was HUGE. Enormous. Visible from space. After the swelling from the surgery subsided (~6 months), I thought I looked remarkably different: more masculine, much more handsome. I thought the difference was unmistakable. But my ex-wife, who I'm still close friends with and I spent a decade with, thinks the difference is scarcely noticeable. My parents said the same thing. Bottom line is, I'd fixated on my nose for so long that I'd completely lost the ability to see it objectively: as relatively large, but not unshapely or unattractive at all. As it turns out, I was a good looking guy the entire time. Realistically, BDD was a culprit there. Luckily, there was no harm done, as the work I had done was terrific and I'm happier as a result. But a few months ago, when I found myself consulting with a plastic surgeon for jaw augmentation, I realized I had to pump the brakes--that if I kept going down this path, I'd NEVER be fully happy with my looks and I'd keep tinkering until I developed an unnatural/plastic look. What I'm trying to say is that those of us who are inclined towards a BDD-type fixation with our looks can develop a dangerous tendency to never leave well enough alone and constantly need surgery to prop up our self esteem. That's not to say there's anything wrong with getting a transplant or other cosmetic procedures--there's not. But I think it's important to acknowledge that the scope of these differences is greatly magnified in our own mind, and it's important to establish "stopping points" BEFORE we start altering our appearance, or we'll continue in perpetuity.

Good looks are a wonderful thing. They are not the only thing. Some of the more homely or balding guys I know are also some of the happiest, because they're kind, generous, and witty men, and they're never in want of friends or women. Trust me when I say this: the women who insist on money, immaculate looks, or prestige are not the women worth having.
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Old 09-09-2012, 06:55 PM   #19
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Why Male Pattern Baldness Has Already Been Cured.
Your "plan" does not involve a cure in any way - and Dr, Gho has not proven himself yet.
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Old 09-09-2012, 07:07 PM   #20
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Why Male Pattern Baldness Has Already Been Cured

I'm going to lay out my NW7 contingency plan, and how I will be NW1 for life.

ITT: I aware Bald Truth Talk on the biggest HT secret of all time.


Assumptions:
>Dr Gho has achieved donor regeneration. This is based on his peer-reviewed papers; his victories in the European courts; and testimony and pictorial evidence by forum members.

>Toppik and other hair loss concealers are able to achieve realistic results with thin hair

The Plan:

Preparation steps:

Use at least Minox and Fin in order to stop hairloss, and at the very very least save your donor and slow the progression of MPB. It should also help to improve hair quality.

Step 1.

Fill in hairline using the FUE technique by one of the top surgeons in the world. Dense-packing will be used to create a near-original density à la Rahal.

The hairline will be NW1 and dense.

Step 2.

If hairloss continues then Dr Gho will be used to fill in what is behind. Hairloss is rarely that fast, so fill-ins by Dr Gho will be able to keep up with any potential loss.

Dr Gho's work is not world-class, however the perks of having near unlimited donor, no scarring, and fast recovery are well worth it. You simply want to have hair there, amazing density isn't terribly important as you'll see...

Step 3.

Continue Step 2 as long as you want until you've basically covered your entire head. If you find the hairloss is too severe and the amount of donor hairs left becomes a concern then start transplanting the hair much thinner.

The low density transplanted grafts may not look spectacular on their own, but that is where the next step comes into play.

Step 4.

Use Toppik to go over the thin hairs and create a dense appearance all over.


Summary and Benefits of the my HT Attack Plan:

By far the most important thing so far as appearance is concerned is the hairline. By having a surgeon like Feriduni or Rahal do a hairline you'll be guaranteed a dense, youthful hairline for life. Therefore you're going to have amazing styling options and a youthful appearance.

The hair behind isn't nearly as important. If you want to go serious in terms of styling then you want that for texture, but otherwise it simply has to be there.

And if your hairloss is bad, then the low density transplant technique will allow the use of Toppik to create a natural and dense appearance.

In fact, even if Gho was a fraud I'd still go with him for the aforementioned steps beacuse of scarring and healing. But even so, this could be achieved using entirely FUE. You would simply have less density behind the hairline, which wouldn't matter that much because of Toppik.



Give me someone who has done what I've outlined here, some styling gel, hair spray, and Toppik, and I can assure you they will have the most dense, thick, textured, beautiful looking NW1 you have ever seen.

People ignore this, but my advice is entirely factual. There is even a person who posted a few days ago talking about doing this exact thing. Low density HT's just enough so that Toppik works.

And let's be honest, whatever we're getting done now only has to last the new decade or two. There will be a cure by then I'm sure - not that even matters with this strategy.


This is an interesting plan I will say. I am just worried about the scarring from a Hair Transplant because I cut my hair short.
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