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08-28-2012, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sp8rky
I've only ever seen Acell cause terrible scarring, please post pics of where Acell has made an improvement.
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Statements like this really get me laughing..... When used properly, Acell can play a positive role. Please show me where these patients received "terrible scarring" since as you say Acell only causes such...
http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthr...highlight=cole
http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthr...ght=cole+acell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2eOZ...layer_embedded
Most of the issues i'm seeing and reading about Acell are when it is used in the assistance of healing strip scars. Because it effects the growth of scar tissue, perhaps it causes aggressive stretching?? Perhaps one of the Docs can chime in on this. But to say Acell "only ever" causes terrible scarring is simply wrong.
It is my understanding that not only Does Dr Cole use Acell (personal experience) but Dr Shapiro, Dr Charles offer it as well. I doubt if Acell "only ever caused terrible scarring" Doctors of this skill level would be using it.
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08-29-2012, 11:53 PM
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perhaps Sparky has only seen pictures like this one taken from another forum , of an acell patient from a Dr in New York .
Makes me laugh how Drs claim the healing is great with acell in fue , my healing with fue from my face is great without it , and these Drs still dont post comparables !
Im unsure as to the Drs `skill level` as it will be interesting and telling to see if these Drs ` invest` in Arty robot to `try` to do fue for them , somehow i dont think we will see Arty lumbering his way into Dr Coles office anytime soon , wonder why that is ?
ejj
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08-30-2012, 08:06 AM
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The video shows the comb being combed through the left side of this patients head, but the description says he had a strip middle and right side so the video isn't showing the strip anyway.
A good fue doctor will leave minimal donor scarring anyway, without the use of Acell, so showing results of grown out fue proves nothing. By the way, in the first link you posted, the hair is parted at the top of the scar, not the middle, so it doesn't show what has grown into it.
Acell certainly does seem to cause aggressive stretching, and imho Acell powder shouldn't be used in strip scar revision, or straight forward strip scar surgery. A good tricho closure will produce a good enough closure to avoid stretching on one strip being taken, but keep on taking strips and you will never be happy with your scar.
The problem is some Dr's are using Acell on scar revision to make things better, but it just doesn't.
Glad I got you laughing though.
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08-30-2012, 04:08 PM
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The body heals itself without Acell but doctors are in the business of selling something that is better so they can make more money but the problem is it’s not better. So they then need to become better at the double talk or talking out of both side of their mouth if you will. Yes it works but not in scar tissue. Yes it works but only on a virgin scalp. Yes it works but only when planting very robust hairs. Yes it works but only in 60% of the cases, guess you might have been in the 40%. Whatever the failure you can be sure they have the answer after all Acell works…….lol……..
EJJ the picture of that scar you just posted is pretty scary.
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08-30-2012, 06:33 PM
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Just an observation. In 1969 I was 18 and was losing my hair hoping for a cure. We sent a man to the moon that year. There were no desk top computers or cell phones or other amazing gadgets we have today. Over 40 years later I just watched on yutube the video of the latest space ship launch and landing of the 3rd mars Rover. It was a technological marvel and great scientific achievement. To the scientists and researchers involved in hair restoration I would just like to be able to grow some hair on my head. Am I asking the impossible? Just an observation. Thanks for your indulgence.
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08-30-2012, 07:00 PM
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Hitzig when speaking of Acell is quoted as saying” in our case it heals by regeneration of skin and hair…..I call it like a Xerox machine were basically copying the hairs” hmmm…….amazing stuff can’t wait to see some results.
Having a Xerox machine that copies hairs sounds like a real money maker.
Have you considered using this machine
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08-30-2012, 11:49 PM
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Yeah, we probably didnt send anyone to the moon in 1969. If we did, why are they finding it so hard to do it now? Off topic
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09-06-2012, 06:15 PM
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@Sparky, hey bro can't wait to see that dome piece of yours as it was looking excellent in those last pics. Are you planning to do fraxel a year after your last session? Hope to hear more from ya brotha.
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09-07-2012, 06:40 PM
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#79
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sp8rky
The video shows the comb being combed through the left side of this patients head, but the description says he had a strip middle and right side so the video isn't showing the strip anyway.
A good fue doctor will leave minimal donor scarring anyway, without the use of Acell, so showing results of grown out fue proves nothing. By the way, in the first link you posted, the hair is parted at the top of the scar, not the middle, so it doesn't show what has grown into it.
Acell certainly does seem to cause aggressive stretching, and imho Acell powder shouldn't be used in strip scar revision, or straight forward strip scar surgery. A good tricho closure will produce a good enough closure to avoid stretching on one strip being taken, but keep on taking strips and you will never be happy with your scar.
The problem is some Dr's are using Acell on scar revision to make things better, but it just doesn't.
Glad I got you laughing though.
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Sorta forgot all about this thread.... Sorry about that. I agree with you 100% on a couple things here. Absolutely correct when saying a good Dr will leave minimal scarring. That is the main reason we choose such Dr's. Acell shouldn't be used on strips.... period. those that are don't know what their doing. Its said advantage in FUE is decreasing hypopigmentation and regeneration of donor. Am I interested in a small investment with potential large gains? Yes. Especially if the risk of damage is obsolete on donor FUE sites. I have never heard of Acell used on beard extraction sites. I have also never seen any major scaring. I would venture to say that most likely is the result of extremely small punches that are used.
... check out that first link again. zoom in on the after photo's and I think you'll see the hair is growing out the scar, not the area over the scar. The scar just doesn't have the same density as the surrounding area. It looks a little airy and perhaps need another pass. However, his hair is long and don't see how that would really benifit him unless he goes with a short style. As for the video, the purpose isn't to show the strip scar, it's to show the absence of white dotting.
Listen, I understand some don't believe Acell does anything at all. It's their choice to have it used or not. I don't really consider it a hot topic. For me and others, if it can bring some benifit in terms of healing and re-growth without the risk of damage, I'm going to use it. I felt the need to comment on the phrase "only ever". As for my experience with it, I'll know more in a few months.
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09-07-2012, 08:03 PM
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#80
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I hope that Acell works for ya man, it will be interesting to see, have you seen it being used on body hair, like leg hair, chest hair and so on? And have you seen Sparky's scar? Looks really good, the only question is the pigment, and I belived that can be helped by fraxel if it even needs it. I'm exited to see your guys after pics though man, take it easy.
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