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[ccmethinning]

Originally Posted by Highlander

Are there any effects later on? I mean, could you do heavy squats and run and jump like everyone else?

I would presume you could not do heavy squats. You could run and jump though. Contact sports are off-limits though.

[NotBelievingIt]

http://www.bjj.boneandjoint.org.uk/c.../1666.full.pdf

Its about rabbits...but usually this kind of study is applicable to humans. Connective tissue is pretty much the same in everything*

Basically the younger you are, the better chance your muscles can adapt because you are more flexible.

So if anything, work on your calf and hammy flexibility before getting this done.

[ccmethinning]

Originally Posted by NotBelievingIt

http://www.bjj.boneandjoint.org.uk/c.../1666.full.pdf

Its about rabbits...but usually this kind of study is applicable to humans. Connective tissue is pretty much the same in everything*

Basically the younger you are, the better chance your muscles can adapt because you are more flexible.

So if anything, work on your calf and hammy flexibility before getting this done.

Ya I've heard about that. I have a lot of work to do. I can't even bend over and touch my toes.

[dex89]

Originally Posted by ccmethinning

Ya I've heard about that. I have a lot of work to do. I can't even bend over and touch my toes.

how much is the procedure going to cost you?

[ccmethinning]

Originally Posted by dex89

how much is the procedure going to cost you?

I probably won't get it done for a couple of years, but the prices are usually about:

India: $15,000
China: $30,000
Germany: $70,000
France $70,000
United States: $100,000

[dex89]

Originally Posted by ccmethinning

I probably won't get it done for a couple of years, but the prices are usually about:

India: $15,000
China: $30,000
Germany: $70,000
France $70,000
United States: $100,000

oh wow, I'm 6'0 right now but I wouldn't mind being 6'3 lol. good luck though.

[ccmethinning]

Originally Posted by dex89

oh wow, I'm 6'0 right now but I wouldn't mind being 6'3 lol. good luck though.

Ya taller is always better. You're fortunate though to be already above average heightm so you've got nothing to worry about. Unless you're trying out for the NBA or want to be an NFL quarterback, you don't have to worry about your height disadvantaging you.

Myself being 5'6", I have to worry about my height being disadvantageous to me a lot.

[Davey Jones]

Originally Posted by Highlander

Edit: Also, supplementing protein in powder form is not ideal. Not all protein is created equal. Not all protein is the same. You can't just supplement "protein" and expect it to be the equivalent to that of someone following a proper diet.

I'm tired of all this "Oh, soy is the only complete protein for vegans, and it's a shitty one at that!"

Just picking off the top of my head, an avocado has almost as much protein as a medium sized egg, and has a more complete amino acid profile than beef, chicken breast, or even whey protein. More easily digested, more complete protein. Not only that, it has a better ratio of omega oils than any of those, and a good nutrient content. And that's just off the top of my head on account of I'm eating two avocados right now (so off the top of my plate, really).

You're right, not all protein is created equal, because meat isn't as good as some totally vegan sources. Thinking that meat is the best way to get protein is outdated quackery. Keep thinking it though. I'll keep not eating meat and being stronger and leaner than you instead.

(Sorry for the in your face answer, but I was recently made fun of for eating a lot of fruit. What kind'a crazy ass world am I in when eating a lot of fruit is something people get made fun of for? Jesus Christ, gorillas do it. How does that not make it at least a little cool?)

[NotBelievingIt]

"best"

I don't think anyone has said that without qualifying it substantially, and thats generally protein by weight.

1 pound of bonless chicken breast has about 100g of protein.

1 pound of avocado will have what, maybe 19 on the very high end?

As I mentioned in another thread I think it was, its all about goals. Lean Gains are possible, anyone who discounts it is a fool.

[Davey Jones]

Originally Posted by NotBelievingIt

"best"

I don't think anyone has said that without qualifying it substantially, and thats generally protein by weight.

1 pound of bonless chicken breast has about 100g of protein.

1 pound of avocado will have what, maybe 19 on the very high end?

As I mentioned in another thread I think it was, its all about goals. Lean Gains are possible, anyone who discounts it is a fool.

If the human body was a "grams of protein in" to "muscle mass out" machine, I would agree. Unfortunately, that isn't even close to true. I, personally, would qualify "best source of protein" as a measure that took into account protein by mass, digestability, amino acid profile, fatty acid ratio and quality, micronutrient content, and macronutrient content aside from protein. At least those things. If I sat and thought longer, I'd probably want to throw in a few more.

Between all the enzymes and coenzymes, omega ratios and healthy fat content, the digestibility and bioavailability, and so on and so forth, meat typically only has an avocado (who seems to be on trial now) beat in the "protein by mass" category. I'm not saying that that's not important. Getting as much protein as you need is definitely a big deal. But if you're just talking protein by mass (and especially if you throw in cost), if that's all that matters, then NOTHING is beating most any protein powder, including vegan ones. A chicken breast, in my opinion, just isn't at the top of absolutely any ranking I would want to use to determine the "best source of protein."

And I certainly wouldn't want to use just "protein by mass" anyway. Though I admit that I'm not a doctor or anything. If you have an argument against any of this, I'd love to hear it. It just ain't feasible for one person to research everything, so I always appreciate hearing what other people have to say.