Sp apart from hairloss...

[Tracy C]

Originally Posted by Winston

@Tracy C, Spencer looks quite young for his age too. I would have guessed late thirties not late forties. Wonder what he eats?

I know he takes care of himself - and it shows.

[Winston]

Originally Posted by Tracy C

I know he takes care of himself - and it shows.

He does look very strong for a man his age, or any age for that matter.

[NotBelievingIt]

Originally Posted by Winston

You can supplement with rice protein or Quinoa, which will give you all the protein you need to build lean muscle mass.

Too bad you have to eat 5 times the amount of quinoa to match a single 2oz chicken breast for protein.

That also means 5x the calories. Adding it into a bulking diet when you are eating a caloric surplus would be OK - but as a direct substitute? well I guess if you're really against meat..

[chrisis]

You can get protein supplements in the form of powders and such which are good enough. There are plenty of vegetarian/vegan bodybuilders. The need for protein is usually exaggerated. Beans and soy are healthy protein rich alternatives to meat.

[ccmethinning]

Besides hair, my other biggest (possibly bigger) problem is height.

I am 5'6", and as a white male in America that is just unacceptable. I've been saving up for leg lengthening surgery and hope to get it done before I turn 25. Unfortunately it will mean a 6 month stay in a foreign hospital.

[Highlander]

Originally Posted by chrisis

You can get protein supplements in the form of powders and such which are good enough. There are plenty of vegetarian/vegan bodybuilders. The need for protein is usually exaggerated. Beans and soy are healthy protein rich alternatives to meat.

The myth is that there is a myth about the required amount of protein / protein absorbtion. Supplements are not essential for bodybuilders as your micro and macronutrients can be achieved through a proper balanced diet (hint: that's why they're called supplements)That said, some supplements would still be strongly recommended so I'm talking strictly in the dietry sense here.

And if you are a vegetarian then you are going to have an exceptionally hard time to match the diet of a meat eater. I would say that frankly you're not going to get a proper balanced diet without supplementing like you mentioned.

Which then raises the question, why follow a diet that is only healthy when supplemented?


Edit: Also, supplementing protein in powder form is not ideal. Not all protein is created equal. Not all protein is the same. You can't just supplement "protein" and expect it to be the equivalent to that of someone following a proper diet.

Edit II: I've yet to see any convincing argument for veganism. Every vegan I've known has been loaded up with veggie-science and spurts half-truths and whole lies. Charlatans you could say.

[Highlander]

Originally Posted by ccmethinning

Besides hair, my other biggest (possibly bigger) problem is height.

I am 5'6", and as a white male in America that is just unacceptable. I've been saving up for leg lengthening surgery and hope to get it done before I turn 25. Unfortunately it will mean a 6 month stay in a foreign hospital.

How much taller can it make you?

[ccmethinning]

Originally Posted by Highlander

How much taller can it make you?

2-4 inches. 2 inches is usually 6 months downtime (sometimes less with the elite European doctors). 4 inches risks complications and usually has downtime of 9-12 months.

[NotBelievingIt]

I'm curious what it does to your leg muscles. They are probably in a permanent state of being unable to grow. Just a guess.

[Highlander]

Originally Posted by ccmethinning

2-4 inches. 2 inches is usually 6 months downtime (sometimes less with the elite European doctors). 4 inches risks complications and usually has downtime of 9-12 months.

Are there any effects later on? I mean, could you do heavy squats and run and jump like everyone else?