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07-19-2012, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by JDW
Also, Based on the primary results replicel at the minimum, even with no regrowth, should stop future loss and prevent progression of MPB...this to me is a success
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This is my thoughts on replicel. I think they have more of a chance of immunizing than growing thousands of new follicles.
Really think they are missing the key. So many have tried injecting cells now, and have failed, or at best have inconsistent results. Im sure replicel are working hard on trying to find out how many injected cells are being recruited etc etc.
Fingers crossed they'll have good news at the end of the year.
Fingers crossed histogen has amazing results end of the year.
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07-19-2012, 02:58 PM
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#1722
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 995
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Originally Posted by neversaynever
Fingers crossed they'll have good news at the end of the year.
Fingers crossed histogen has amazing results end of the year.
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Imagine if you could grow new follicles with Histogen, Aderans or whatever....then immunize them with Replicel!
Obviously I'm just talking out of my ass but it's nice to live in a time where there is actual hope that things will get better for hair loss sufferers (ie most adults in the world)
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07-19-2012, 07:34 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by 25 going on 65
Imagine if you could grow new follicles with Histogen, Aderans or whatever....then immunize them with Replicel!
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That is exactly what I expect will eventually happen, only Aderans will not be involved. Aderans will be doing their own exclusive thing through Bosely and Hair Club.
Currenty, the only way Aderans can get the direction of growth right is to grow follicles in donated skin, then harvest the new follicles from the donated skin in an FUE style procedure so they can then be replanted in your scalp as is done during a traditional hair transplant. Aderans might be the first to offer a solution but it won't be the best - and it won't be the most cost effective. Too many steps. The more steps you have in a process the more opportunity you will have to encounter problems.
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07-19-2012, 08:05 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 545
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Originally Posted by 25 going on 65
Imagine if you could grow new follicles with Histogen, Aderans or whatever....then immunize them with Replicel!
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Originally Posted by Tracy C
That is exactly what I expect will eventually happen, only Aderans will not be involved. Aderans will be doing their own exclusive thing through Bosely and Hair Club.
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I was thinking the very same thing earlier today in training class as I stared at the two close buzzed (maybe week out from shaves?) NW5 and NW6s in front of me.
Both looked fine, but the one guy clearly could put on some upper body size. I think I'm small but damn he barely had an upper arm.
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07-19-2012, 08:34 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 11
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Originally Posted by NotBelievingIt
I was thinking the very same thing earlier today in training class as I stared at the two close buzzed (maybe week out from shaves?) NW5 and NW6s in front of me.
Both looked fine, but the one guy clearly could put on some upper body size. I think I'm small but damn he barely had an upper arm.
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I believe arm transplants have been done.
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07-19-2012, 08:53 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2012
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so far Histogen was only able to grow BRAND NEW FOLLICLES in VITRO... from the past two studies they still weren't able to confirm if HSC did in fact grow any new follicles
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07-19-2012, 10:46 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 995
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Originally Posted by Tracy C
That is exactly what I expect will eventually happen, only Aderans will not be involved. Aderans will be doing their own exclusive thing through Bosely and Hair Club.
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I don't like the sound of that at all. Only Bosley doctors will be able to work with Aderan's regeneration technique?
Has anyone ever had a good transplant from Bosley?!
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07-20-2012, 06:06 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 821
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Originally Posted by 25 going on 65
I don't like the sound of that at all. Only Bosley doctors will be able to work with Aderan's regeneration technique?
Has anyone ever had a good transplant from Bosley?! 
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Tracy doesn't know that as a fact - nobody does - and besides aderans want to make as much money as possible so I doubt it'll be exclusive.
@Tracy - heck even if they do have to FUE those babies into my head you can sign me the hell up!!! I'll take 3000 grafts thank you very much
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07-20-2012, 04:50 PM
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#1729
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,970
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Originally Posted by 2020
so far Histogen was only able to grow BRAND NEW FOLLICLES in VITRO... from the past two studies they still weren't able to confirm if HSC did in fact grow any new follicles
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So how do you explain the difference in hair count from baseline to 12 weeks in BOTH studies?
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07-20-2012, 05:49 PM
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#1730
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,557
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Originally Posted by UK_
So how do you explain the difference in hair count from baseline to 12 weeks in BOTH studies?
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??? hair count is not the same as the number of hair follicles. You certainly have much much more actual hair than follicles. HSC may stimulate existing follicles to produce better hair. Also, the growth factors they're using are being secreted all the time on your scalp so this isn't anything new.
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