Equol

[Jairus]

Originally Posted by Jasari

Of course it will. The fact remains that DHT has its function in the body. I'm honestly not sure how anyone could feel that you will not have side effects lowering DHT by up to 90%.

sigh.....so how much can we reduce it by and in conjunction reduce any potential sides?

We have been around this a million times with Fin, surely the fact that equol doesnt affect the reductase means that it has a potentially safer side effect profile no?

It seems we cant win.

[Jairus]

Can someone tell me of a topical that reduces DHT by a considerable amount with negligible sides effects?

Not interested in messing with hormones.

possible conjecture accepted.

[neversaynever]

Originally Posted by Jairus

sigh.....so how much can we reduce it by and in conjunction reduce any potential sides?

We have been around this a million times with Fin, surely the fact that equol doesnt affect the reductase means that it has a potentially safer side effect profile no?

It seems we cant win.

Logically yes, equol should have far less side effects (if any).

It has been tested upto 320mg for a short period, no side effects reported. We're looking at around 25mg for a 70% DHT reduction (guessing!). Noones got the info. Only way to know is to try, ensuring you check your hormone levels before, and after one month of equol.

In august 2013 this trial will finish...

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/N...m=equol&rank=1

around 124 taking varied doses of equol. This trial (focusing on the prostate) should tell us whats happening. If you dont want to take any 'risks', just wait.

Im told that equol can be used as a topical, but there is no info as to how effective it will be.

Equol also has other health benefits. Fin has no other health benefits.

[Conpecia]

No way I can wait another whole year for those results! Guess I'm gonna start with a low dosage and see if I can just maintain, then up the dosage after that trial concludes.

[Conpecia]

Originally Posted by Jasari

Of course it will. The fact remains that DHT has its function in the body. I'm honestly not sure how anyone could feel that you will not have side effects lowering DHT by up to 90%.

I don't think equol "lowers" DHT in the same manner as fin. It prevents DHT from attaching to hair follicles, but does not lower the amount if I recall correctly.

[lilpauly]

Originally Posted by Jairus

Is LilPauly using Eqoul already?

How are you getting on with it LP?

J

My equal should arrive anyday now

[neversaynever]

Originally Posted by Conpecia

I don't think equol "lowers" DHT in the same manner as fin. It prevents DHT from attaching to hair follicles, but does not lower the amount if I recall correctly.

It does lower the amount of serum DHT, just with a different method to fin. Fin stops the production of DHT by blocking 5a. Equol attaches itself strongly to DHT, after which it is no longer DHT.

It can also pass cellular membranes, so it can enter the prostate and hair follicles and attach itself to DHT there. A few studies have confirmed that DHT levels are lowered.

[UK_]

Originally Posted by neversaynever

It does lower the amount of serum DHT, just with a different method to fin. Fin stops the production of DHT by blocking 5a. Equol attaches itself strongly to DHT, after which it is no longer DHT.

It can also pass cellular membranes, so it can enter the prostate and hair follicles and attach itself to DHT there. A few studies have confirmed that DHT levels are lowered.

If DHT levels are lowered wont the body compensate by producing more test? And if 5AR is the same more test will be converted to DHT, requiring more and more equol. I also dont see how this method mitigates the sides experienced during the use of Fin... just looks like a different version of fin - might aswel call it "Dutasteride II".

[UK_]

Originally Posted by Conpecia

I don't think equol "lowers" DHT in the same manner as fin. It prevents DHT from attaching to hair follicles, but does not lower the amount if I recall correctly.

Why the heck to we have DHT receptors on our hair follicles? What kind of God would design that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4238NN8HMgQ

[bananana]

Originally Posted by UK_

If DHT levels are lowered wont the body compensate by producing more test? And if 5AR is the same more test will be converted to DHT, requiring more and more equol. I also dont see how this method mitigates the sides experienced during the use of Fin... just looks like a different version of fin - might aswel call it "Dutasteride II".

This is just an opinion? Any science behind this?

just asking.