Histogen and hair transplant

[25 going on 65]

Maradona I would definitely tell the doc about taking fin. Being referred to an endocrinologist isn't the worst thing in the world, maybe they can help you. I'd be really cautious about self-diagnosing in general let alone self-diagnosing something as rare and poorly understood as PFS.

As for the thread topic, I must say I'm also paranoid about hair transplants hurting the effectiveness of future treatments. No one knows for sure whether it will, and if so which treatments would be affected/by how much. It makes me want to hold off on surgery as long as I can. I personally will be on dutasteride before setting foot in a surgical clinic though unfortunately some guys don't have the medication option.
Of course if it turns out not to matter, it would suck that some men went for years with more visible balding when they didn't have to. You can't get that time back.
All the uncertainty in this industry is so annoying

[Jasari]

I very much doubt a hair transplant with have any effect on future treatment. Histogen for example is injected into area experiencing hairloss. Lets say for example your a norwood 3a and you get a fue transplant into the front third to adress your hairline, even when histogen is readily available you wont require it in the front third area anyway as it has been adressed by the transplant.

Essentially where histogen will be a godsend is to reverse people progressing down the norwood scale. In that regard if your a norwood 3/4 you can fix up the front third and histogen can prevent the hair behind the transplant ever falling out.

Futher the donor area is a moot point because you will never require histogen there in the first place.

The people that would potentially have to think seriously about a transplant are those at a norwood 5 and above level. They more than likely cannot achieve full density with a transplant and may be unresposive to histogen when it comes out if they have said transplant. For those adressing a smaller area i really cant see why you would rule out a transplant now, especially if it can stop you losing your youth. That being said however if the density of a transplant is quite low chances are there should be a large amount of untouched dormant hair follicles on the scalp to provide a significant yield from histogen.

[JJJJrS]

This is exactly why there should be more of an emphasis on this forum on getting to the bottom of Gho's HST. If you're considering a HT right now and are worried about how it would interact with future treatments, obviously you'd want the most minimally invasive/scarless procedure with a greatly expanded donor.

People spend a lot of time on here talking about what-ifs and treatments that are years away. We have a hair transplant procedure available right now that, at least on paper, sounds like it's miles above all other hair loss treatments and there's some pretty compelling evidence supporting those claims. Wouldn't it better if people invested more energy in finding out how well it works? If we eventually get the conclusive proof it works, patients can start putting pressure on surgeons to start offering it as well. If on the other hand it turns out that it doesn't work as claimed, then we can stop discussing it.

[UK_]

Dr Ziering has mentioned he is currently trying HSC on scar tissue - I hope soon he will try to see what happens when HSC is applied to both donor and recipient areas after a HT, I think it will greatly help wound healing and create more hairs per follicular unit and perhaps a some NEW hair follicles.

[UK_]

Originally Posted by JJJJrS

This is exactly why there should be more of an emphasis on this forum on getting to the bottom of Gho's HST. If you're considering a HT right now and are worried about how it would interact with future treatments, obviously you'd want the most minimally invasive/scarless procedure with a greatly expanded donor.

But how do we do that? 10 years ago Dr Gho was making the same claims and nobody could get to the bottom of his treatment back then, now he is making similar claims and its the same thing - he will probably carry on like this until he retires.

[aim4hair]

Originally Posted by UK_

But how do we do that? 10 years ago Dr Gho was making the same claims and nobody could get to the bottom of his treatment back then, now he is making similar claims and its the same thing - he will probably carry on like this until he retires.

Actually, dr. Gho is booked for months, and there is a long waiting list for his procedure. So that could tell you alot of people beleive in his technique despite what most of the online forum community think.

[Kiwi]

Originally Posted by aim4hair

Actually, dr. Gho is booked for months, and there is a long waiting list for his procedure. So that could tell you alot of people beleive in his technique despite what most of the online forum community think.

I think all it tells us is that people are desperate and will spend their entire life savings on this greedy douche bag.

Screw Gho if he aint going to share his technique freely with other docs like FUT and FUE were shared with him

Its why this world is so screwed up. Greed.

[UK_]

Originally Posted by aim4hair

Actually, dr. Gho is booked for months, and there is a long waiting list for his procedure. So that could tell you alot of people beleive in his technique despite what most of the online forum community think.

Universal truth is not measured in mass appeal.

[aim4hair]

Originally Posted by Kiwi

I think all it tells us is that people are desperate and will spend their entire life savings on this greedy douche bag.

Screw Gho if he aint going to share his technique freely with other docs like FUT and FUE were shared with him

Its why this world is so screwed up. Greed.

FUE was not shared.. Woods wanted to charge docs fot it but they found out how to do it without paying him... So it seems like no doctor is able to find out how HST is done yet.
Plus, HST price is not really expensive as some skeptics make it sound to be. It's in the range with FUE.
For example 1600-1800 HST grafts cost €9400, let's check the average of FUE for some of the most famous and reputable doctors "who ironically are never accused of being greedy or over priced:

1) Dr. Bisanga: €5 per graft so 1600-1800 would cost €8000 to €9000
2) Dr. Rahal: $8 per graft so 1600-1800 would cost $12,800 to $14,400
3) Dr. Feller: $10 per graft so 1600-1800 would cost $16,000 to $18,000
4) Dr. Bauman: $15 per graft so 1600-1800 would cost $24,000 to $27,000
5) Dr. Umar: $7 per graft so 1600-1800 would cost $11,200 to $12,600
6) Dr. Shapiro: $7 per graft so 1600-1800 would cost $11,200 to $12,600

(i pologize if any of the above prices were changed recently)

I know some doctors reduce the price per graft if you go above 2000 or 2500 but still they all seem to be in the same range and we are just talking about 1600-1800 grafts here.

So i don't really see why gho haters make it sound like gho is greedy and his procedure is the most expensive in the world right now.

And i don't see why gho should share his technique with other doctors freely, he has been working hard for it and many of others did nothing bad doubting and bad mouthing him.

[ccmethinning]

Originally Posted by aim4hair

FUE was not shared.. Woods wanted to charge docs fot it but they found out how to do it without paying him... So it seems like no doctor is able to find out how HST is done yet.
Plus, HST price is not really expensive as some skeptics make it sound to be. It's in the range with FUE.
For example 1600-1800 HST grafts cost €9400, let's check the average of FUE for some of the most famous and reputable doctors "who ironically are never accused of being greedy or over priced:

1) Dr. Bisanga: €5 per graft so 1600-1800 would cost €8000 to €9000
2) Dr. Rahal: $8 per graft so 1600-1800 would cost $12,800 to $14,400
3) Dr. Feller: $10 per graft so 1600-1800 would cost $16,000 to $18,000
4) Dr. Bauman: $15 per graft so 1600-1800 would cost $24,000 to $27,000
5) Dr. Umar: $7 per graft so 1600-1800 would cost $11,200 to $12,600
6) Dr. Shapiro: $7 per graft so 1600-1800 would cost $11,200 to $12,600

(i pologize if any of the above prices were changed recently)

I know some doctors reduce the price per graft if you go above 2000 or 2500 but still they all seem to be in the same range and we are just talking about 1600-1800 grafts here.

So i don't really see why gho haters make it sound like gho is greedy and his procedure is the most expensive in the world right now.

And i don't see why gho should share his technique with other doctors freely, he has been working hard for it and many of others did nothing bad doubting and bad mouthing him.

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