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07-04-2012, 06:30 PM
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Spex uses Saw palmetto
Got this in my inbox:
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Hi,
Hopefully you have found the information i have sent you so far
of use. If so you will also find this article useful too.
Serenoa repens is the medical name for the herb saw palmetto. The
deep red fruit of this small palm grows wild in warm climates
such as those found in the Southeastern United States.
The liposerolic extract of the fruit of Saw Palmetto is the most
popular herbal supplement for the promotion of prostate health in
Europe.
Research has shown that the herb Saw Palmetto has the same
effects as finasteride in treating patients with benign prostate
enlargement. In fact, the herb is very popular and common in
Germany and is available as an over-the-counter medication. There
are many research and studies in Germany that confirm the
effectiveness of Saw Palmetto in treating patients with prostatic
disease.
Studies have shown that saw palmetto is an effective
anti-androgen. It acts in a similar way that propecia does.
Firstly it lowers levels of DHT in the body by Blocking 5
alpha-reductase. Secondly Saw Palmetto block receptor sites on
cell membranes required for cells to absorb DHT.
Although no studies have been carried out on saw palmetto and its
relation to hair growth. Studies have been performed on the use of Saw
palmetto in the treatment of benign prostatic disease which
similar to Androgenetic Alopecia also depends on the production
of dihydrotestosterone(DHT).
All of the studies that have been
performed to date show that Saw palmetto is an effective
anti-androgen and has shown conclusively to be effective in the
treatment of benign prostate disease.
More and more people around the globe are starting to use Saw
palmetto in the treatment of benign prostatic hyperplasma and in
the treatment of Androgenetic alopecia.
One may assume from this that since Saw palmetto is an effective
antiandrogen and is used in the treatment of prostatic disease
then it may also be effective in the treatment of Androgenetic
alopecia.
Some studies have shown that saw palmetto may have the same
effect as the drug finasteride in treating hair loss and prostate
enlargement diseases. It has been suggested that both hair loss
and prostate disease are related to the hormone DHT
(Dihydrotestosterone) which is formed when the enzyme 5-alpha
reductase interacts with the male hormone testosterone.
Saw Palmetto and Beta-sitosterol Study - Natural Treatment for
Male Pattern Baldness 7/3/02 - Healthnotes Newswire—Those with
male pattern baldness may increase hair growth by taking a
preparation containing saw palmetto (Serenoa repens) and
beta-sitosterol (a compound found in many edible plants),
according to a new study in The Journal of Alternative and
Complementary Medicine (2002;8:143–52).
In the new study, 19 men between the ages of 23 and 64 years with
mild to moderate hair loss were given either a placebo or a
supplement containing 400 mg of a standardized extract of saw
palmetto and 100 mg of beta-sitosterol per day. After about five
months, hair growth in 60% of the men taking the herbal
combination had improved compared with their initial evaluation.
In contrast, only 11% of those receiving the placebo improved.
Although the number of men in the study was small and the results
were not statistically significant (which means the improvement
may have occurred by chance alone), the findings are encouraging
for millions of men (and possibly women) with male pattern hair
loss and offers a relatively safe alternative for those who want
to take a natural approach to treat this condition.
Larger studies are needed to confirm the benefit of saw palmetto and
beta-sitosterol, as reported in this preliminary study. In
addition, women of childbearing age should not use saw palmetto
without medical supervision because it has not been proven to be
safe during pregnancy and lactation.
I personally add saw palmetto into my regime for keeping my hair,
It's a cheap natural extract which everyone who is serious about
investing in time and money in restoring their hair should go with
Hope you found this useful and helpful,
as always will be here to help you and you're hair loss
warmly,
Spex
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Then why does he use fin?
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07-05-2012, 01:30 AM
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Maybe i know....
This copy/paste above is a newsletter you will have recieved from me automatically. This newsletter informs people of various treatments that are either proven and beneficial treatments.
No harm in taking SP as yet another line of defence IN THEORY. However it is no substitute for finasteride. Its an alternative for guys who can't take finasteride yet not proven to be as successful. I take it along side fin, why ?
Why not!
Spex
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07-05-2012, 05:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spex
Maybe i know....
This copy/paste above is a newsletter you will have recieved from me automatically. This newsletter informs people of various treatments that are either proven and beneficial treatments.
No harm in taking SP as yet another line of defence IN THEORY. However it is no substitute for finasteride. Its an alternative for guys who can't take finasteride yet not proven to be as successful. I take it along side fin, why ?
Why not!
Spex
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Doesn't it do exactly the same thing as fin?
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07-05-2012, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by yeahyeahyeah
Doesn't it do exactly the same thing as fin?
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it does much, much better things than fin depending on what brand and dosage you take.
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07-05-2012, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by gutted
it does much, much better things than fin depending on what brand and dosage you take.
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Can you elaborate?
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07-05-2012, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by yeahyeahyeah
Can you elaborate?
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I was looking at vitamins at the store yesterday, and I saw one that said, "Men's Health." The first ingredient was Saw Palmetto. I didn't really look over the bottle too hard, but maybe the "Men's Health" thing means it's good for stuff us dudes have that chicks don't. Prostates and penises and whatnot.
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07-05-2012, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Davey Jones
I was looking at vitamins at the store yesterday, and I saw one that said, "Men's Health." The first ingredient was Saw Palmetto. I didn't really look over the bottle too hard, but maybe the "Men's Health" thing means it's good for stuff us dudes have that chicks don't. Prostates and penises and whatnot.
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This is sarcasm right?
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07-05-2012, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by yeahyeahyeah
This is sarcasm right?
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Well, maybe the penises thing. But I would guess the rest is true. If it's the first ingredient in a men's health supplement, I'd say it's probably good for (or at least people think it's good for) things that are specific to men. Prostate health, hormone levels specific to men, etc.
EDIT: Judging by this, it's probably only the "at least people think it's good for" thing. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0927161656.htm. There is a lot of contradictory evidence. Doesn't seem to be harmful though, so there's no reason not to take it.
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07-05-2012, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by yeahyeahyeah
Can you elaborate?
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people have been assuming it primarily works through dht inhibition when thats not the case it works via other mechanisms too.
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07-05-2012, 03:01 PM
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Saw palmetto is a weak anti androgen. I took it for three years and still lost hair. I have been on Finasteride for four years now and my hairloss has halted.
Same story with my brother.
If you want to take it, add it to Finasteride.
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