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They do not say that DHT is 'unimportant' but rather that testosterone is more important. People already know that testosterone is a very important factor as well in determining erectile function and is not inconsistent with the notion that DHT is also related.
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The study itself concluded "the critical androgenic substance for these effects is most likely T rather than DHT." I read the study and it did not state anywhere with certainty that DHT was important. the data shown in the study strongly supports this fact also
This doesnt state with absolute 100% certainty that this is the case, but it suggests it is most likely the case.
You still cant give me a single study that reaches a conclusion supporting your theory.
One more interesting thing to check I assume you have seen a copy of this study so take a look at page 6 (also labeled as page 519 as it exists in the book). Take a look at the 4 referenced dutasteride studies. ill post them here too
Study 1
McConnell et al 2003
Number of subjects:
1493
Dosage:
0.5 mg/d
Years of treatment:
4.5
ED % Rate Dut/Placebo:
3.5/3.3
Actual ED Rate:
0.2%
Study 2
Andriole and Kirby 2003
Number of subjects:
5655
Dosage:
0.5 mg/d
Years of treatment:
2
ED % Rate Dut/Placebo:
0.8/0.9
Actual ED Rate:
0.1%
Study 3
Roehrborn et al 2004
Number of subjects:
569
Dosage:
0.5 mg/d
Years of treatment:
2
ED % Rate Dut/Placebo:
1.3/1.3
Actual ED Rate:
0%
Study 4
Marberger et al 2006
Number of subjects:
4254
Dosage:
0.5 mg/d
Years of treatment:
2
ED % Rate Dut/Placebo:
6.7/4.0
Actual ED Rate:
2.7%
Total Patients:
11,971
Average Years:
2.6
Average ED rate:
0.75%
Let me summarize.. Out of 11,971 patients taking 0.5mg dutasteride over the (average) course of 2.6 years, with their DHT levels lowered by 95%, only 0.75% reported ED. Yes, over ten thousand men walked around with 95% DHT, the hormone you think is so crucial for achieving erections, and less than 1 out of 130 reported ED. I dont think I could prove my point any more eloquently!
Whats even crazier and proves my point undoubtably is the finasteride studies referenced had an overall ED rate of 3.3% over the course of 2.5 years.
finasteride which lowers DHT by 60 or 70% caused more than four times as much ED as dutasteride which lowers DHT by 95%. Of course there is some margin of error here, but this is a massive amount of hard evidence that 100% supports the idea that DHT is not important for erections.
Ive laid this all out for you.. these are long term studies with thousands of patients over the course of years, showing that DHT appears to have absolutely nothing to do with ED rates.
Now the extent of your data so far consists of a poorly written article from a mens health clinic, and a conclusion you reached on your own from two small primary studies.
How can you still argue this?
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You have not challenged me, but you have merely disagreed and misunderstood my statements. I would be happy if you could have an intelligent debate as well, but you can't always get what you want.
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Of course I disagree with your statements, isnt that why we are debating!? Perhaps I am no longer challenging you because you have outright given up because you have no more ways to try to make your case?
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