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06-13-2012, 02:23 PM
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Doctor Representative
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Originally Posted by topcat
The most important thing to remember about these forums is the fact that quite a few posters are not even real people. They are either aliases of the same person and many are associated with a clinic or the forum itself. It is a way of moving information in a certain direction.
Always question what you are reading and why it was posted.
I am no fan of the medical industry but HT is like a bizarre offshoot at times. Can anyone imagine a heart surgery forum with paid advocates operating the same way. I mean really it is beyond bizarre at times.
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Who are these paid shills? Why not name them? To do so would be a service. There are a lot of different doctors posting work to the forums but I simply don't believe that any of the most highly regarded clinics are playing dirty tricks. Plus you're implicating the forum owners in the plot too. This is a serious accusation.
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06-13-2012, 02:36 PM
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Mattj it is not up to me to post names, posters need to figure it out for themselves. When someone is lying in a thread I post to then I call them out on it. After all these years day in and day out on the forums I have a pretty good feel for who is full of shit. Anyone that thinks this does not go on is naïve and anyone that works in the industry I’m sure is also aware of it but they don’t like to talk about it’s a taboo subject.
And nowhere did I say every forum operates the same way.
If I were to listen to just the paid adovates then everything is wonderful in the world of hair transplantation.
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06-13-2012, 06:52 PM
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Join Date: May 2011
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Glad I had the balls to start this thread. I think it's important that we don't brush things under the carpet so to speak.
Matt, you mentioned that you don't believe that any of the most highly regarded outfits are playing any dirty tricks. I've mentioned already that I agree that I don't think the few top clinics are pulling shenanigans. Count yourself and Dr. Rahal on the shortlist of the good guys. Same applies for Jotronic and Spex. Jotronic actually actively outs some of the dodgy clinics he comes across. The thread the other week where they were stealing H&W results photos comes to mind.
Purpose of the thread is awareness. Some of the forums out there do not make it easy on the prospective patient.
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06-14-2012, 10:22 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Washington DC
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It does not take very long to see who is here to help other hairloss sufferers and who are not.
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06-14-2012, 03:04 PM
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Join Date: May 2009
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Yes, I agree letting others know about this industry and giving them as much information as possible and not just being selective is very helpful.
I will leave the pep talks on washing gently after the procedure to the reps.
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06-15-2012, 07:15 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
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If only this information and online research was availible 20 years ago.....my decision would have been very, very different. those thinking about have a HT today are very lucky. Not only have Docs improved their skill in addition to better technology, but the ability to reach out and aquire as much information to make a valid decision is at their fingertips.
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06-16-2012, 08:38 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2009
Location: UK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by northeastguy
If only this information and online research was availible 20 years ago.....my decision would have been very, very different. those thinking about have a HT today are very lucky. Not only have Docs improved their skill in addition to better technology, but the ability to reach out and aquire as much information to make a valid decision is at their fingertips.
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This is an excellent point.
All the information needed is out there, it just takes a lot of time and a bit of sense to go through it all and know who/what to believe.
Many repair patients would have a very different outlook on the HT industry if they did this instead of rushing in.
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06-17-2012, 08:25 AM
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That was the exact point....We didn't have this! Rushing in wasn't the problem. Lack of resourses was more appropriate. When I started in the early 90's it was a packet in the mail then a trim to the sales advisor telling you they will simply remove the growing hair from the back of your head and naturally place it in the front.... problem solved. We had no forums or resourses to tap into to make a logical and well thought out decision.
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06-17-2012, 10:12 AM
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#39
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dont forget also that `some ` Drs tell blatant lies , yes its great to have the technology to conduct research , it was not there for me 20 years ago ,
I did consult with a good Dr who told me to avoid plug / punch grafts at all costs , micro grafts were state of the art back then.
so when i quizzed my first butcher ( sorry dr , dr miles wislang ) he said he was quote .." freinds ".. with the first Dr I had consulted with and he did.. quote " state of the art " work just a little cheaper than the Dr in the USA , had he shown me a patient one or two weeks down the line i would of run a mile ...... he butchered my 22 year old head for approx $2k usd !!
so even with the best research.. meet patients check out there results ,remember , if in doubt do nothing .
ejj
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06-17-2012, 06:06 PM
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Join Date: May 2011
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Well said ejj.
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