Spencer, please help us end the debate on Dr. Gho's HST procedure!

[Follicle Death Row]

Originally Posted by Winston

Counting hair from a photograph only proves that what ever was left behind after extraction grew back. You would have to mark off an extracted area with a permanent tattooed marking. Once the grafts are extracted the transected hair left behind have to be marked and checked microscopically for vellus hair in the follicular unit. Then the area would need to be checked microscopically every few weeks to see if the entire graft was regenerating or if just the hair left behind from the grafts were repairing and regrowing. If it’s the later then all you have is a high tech way to graft split. If the entire follicular unit regenerates then you have what we’ve been waiting for.

Exactly. This is what I've been trying to explain. We need before and after precise counts of the follicles and hairs that are operated on. Sure I see hair growing out of extraction sites with HST on the high def photos but if I see only one hair growing or 2 hairs growing where there once was 3 well we don't have regeneration at all.

Dr. Gho's preposed method was that you transect a 3 haired follicle and transplant 2 hairs with all 3 growing back in the donor. He could be just transplanting 2 hairs from a 3 haired follicle and 1 grows back in the donor. i.e. no gain of hair.

[gc83uk]

Originally Posted by Follicle Death Row

Exactly. This is what I've been trying to explain. We need before and after precise counts of the follicles and hairs that are operated on. Sure I see hair growing out of extraction sites with HST on the high def photos but if I see only one hair growing or 2 hairs growing where there once was 3 well we don't have regeneration at all.

Dr. Gho's preposed method was that you transect a 3 haired follicle and transplant 2 hairs with all 3 growing back in the donor. He could be just transplanting 2 hairs from a 3 haired follicle and 1 grows back in the donor. i.e. no gain of hair.

Mate I've told you about this before I hardly have any 3 hair follicles anywhere on my head. If 2 hair grafts are regrowing out of my donor and 2 hair grafts are growing from my recipient....you do the maths.

[Follicle Death Row]

Originally Posted by gc83uk

Mate I've told you about this before I hardly have any 3 hair follicles anywhere on my head. If 2 hair grafts are regrowing out of my donor and 2 hair grafts are growing from my recipient....you do the maths.

Hope so man. I genuinely do. I want it to work as much as you do. I'm just very wary of Dr. Gho given his colourful past.

[gc83uk]

Originally Posted by Winston

Counting hair from a photograph only proves that what ever was left behind after extraction grew back. You would have to mark off an extracted area with a permanent tattooed marking. Once the grafts are extracted the transected hair left behind have to be marked and checked microscopically for vellus hair in the follicular unit. Then the area would need to be checked microscopically every few weeks to see if the entire graft was regenerating or if just the hair left behind from the grafts were repairing and regrowing. If it’s the later then all you have is a high tech way to graft split. If the entire follicular unit regenerates then you have what we’ve been waiting for.

Vellus hairs? The donor regrowth is never vellus hairs. The hairs grow immediately as normal hair. It emerges through the extraction points about 2-5 days after being extracted.

I don't know the science behind Gho's method, but it would suggest for the hair to grow back that quickly the follicle is taken at a shallow point. I would also bet the regrown hairs have blunt ends (not checked) and not fine tips!

[534623]

Originally Posted by Follicle Death Row

Dr. Gho's preposed method was that you transect a 3 haired follicle and transplant 2 hairs with all 3 growing back in the donor. He could be just transplanting 2 hairs from a 3 haired follicle and 1 grows back in the donor. i.e. no gain of hair.

wow, so many 3-hair grafts in such a small area and still even after already having 1 procedure in the same area. and even they did what you claim, nobody could see any hair shafts left in the extractions sites. so what you claim is absolutely impossible. and even they did it, seems something like 'shock loss' (i heard so much about) doesn't exist.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Originally Posted by 534623

wow, so many 3-hair grafts in such a small area and still even after already having 1 procedure in the same area. and even they did what you claim, nobody could see any hair shafts left in the extractions sites. so what you claim is absolutely impossible. and even they did it, seems something like 'shock loss' (i heard so much about) doesn't exist.

Moral of the story:

Haters gonna hate.

But it is good FDR is asking these questions, means Gho's work is being scrutinized.

[NeedHairASAP]

Originally Posted by Follicle Death Row

Hope so man. I genuinely do. I want it to work as much as you do. I'm just very wary of Dr. Gho given his colourful past.

please link to threads WITH pictures of the people he supposedly butchered... or WHATEVER your vague statements are referring to. Its p*ssy to say that and not post examples.


and don't respond with "he had bad results"... I'd like to see the threads with pictures etc.

if you're going to slander somebody, such as calling them untrustworthy because of a colorful past, then please post concrete examples....

[NeedHairASAP]

Originally Posted by Follicle Death Row

Hope so man. I genuinely do. I want it to work as much as you do. I'm just very wary of Dr. Gho given his colourful past.

don't hope. go look at the pictures and count... man

Originally Posted by 534623

some guys can see lots of replicel hairs without seeing a photo.

+1

[JJJJrS]

In 2009, a number of hair restoration and cosmetic surgery clinics from the Netherlands and Belgium sued Dr. Gho and his Hair Science Institute clinic for false advertising based on the claims he was making about his HST procedure.

On both occasions this was done, the courts ruled in Dr. Gho's favour.

Here's a retraction from Dr. Feriduni, who's a well respected hair transplant surgeon specializing in FUE:



Feriduni Retraction

More information can be found on HASCI's website under the "News" and then the "File: Hair Stem Cell transplantation" sections.

Certainly, gives credit that Dr. Gho is doing things that other hair transplant surgeons cannot. Once again, I think we should all get behind this initiative so that we can develop a full understanding of HST and its limitations.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Originally Posted by JJJJrS

In 2009, a number of hair restoration and cosmetic surgery clinics from the Netherlands and Belgium sued Dr. Gho and his Hair Science Institute clinic for false advertising based on the claims he was making about his HST procedure.

On both occasions this was done, the courts ruled in Dr. Gho's favour.

Here's a retraction from Dr. Feriduni, who's a well respected hair transplant surgeon specializing in FUE:



Feriduni Retraction

More information can be found on HASCI's website under the "News" and then the "File: Hair Stem Cell transplantation" sections.

Certainly, gives credit that Dr. Gho is doing things that other hair transplant surgeons cannot. Once again, I think we should all get behind this initiative so that we can develop a full understating of HST and its limitations.

So why isnt he using HST? If Ghos tech is working.

I dont get it.