Spencer, please help us end the debate on Dr. Gho's HST procedure!

[534623]

Originally Posted by Johny.track131

Holy shit, i just noticed that Gho/HST spells out ... GHOHST which is really close to GHOST!! It's a trap, i knew it was fake all along, now we just need to call the ghost busters

ghost busters? some ht clinics in the benelux countries called the ghost busters twice.

https://www.reclamecode.nl/webuitspr...D=34179&acCode

and lost twice already.

besides many other factors, some respected and not ht field related medical doctors confirmed the claims of the ghost because the ghost treated their patients and they could observe the procedures as well as results on their own patients.

[mlao]

What ever happened to the online petition we signed to make the industry
aware of Dr. Gho's procedure?

[NeedHairASAP]

Originally Posted by CVAZBAR

I'm with this.

CVAZBAR is literally spencer's biggest fan. hence why his comment involves implying that Gho may still not be the answer.

[NeedHairASAP]

Originally Posted by Winston

If HST worked Spencer Kobren would be all over it! All of the IAHRS doctors would be doing it. Their business would go through the roof if they were able to offer an unlimited donor supply. The cost to learn from Gho and to use his “technology” would be negligible compared to the enormous profits they would make. HST has not been proven to work, if it did, at the very least, all FUE doctors would have adopted it already.

not true.As has already been pointed out, look at the history and introduction of FUE.


HT doc's are making $200,000 to $300,000 a year as is. How much more are they going to make with HST? These doc's are booked up as is-- taking the time and money to offer HST isn't going to help them. It's more effective for them to criticize it quickly on a blog or forum and then go on with their current business models and bookings--- JUST AS THEY DID WITH FUE!!

now, instead of waisting time talking to spencer cheerleaders like CVAZ, CAN WE TALK TO SPENCER? aka the "consumer advocate"



Is spencer really going to let another week go by as evidence mounts? is he really going to act like he isn't reading this thread?





what would you do if you were the "consumer advocate" for tape players and you had a website with all the tape player manufacturer reviews and profiles... and then cd players came out.....


at this point its blatantly obvious that HST is better than FUE and STRIP so.....no sure where the "consumer advocate" has been the last month or two...

[gmonasco]

Originally Posted by NeedHairASAP

HT doc's are making $200,000 to $300,000 a year as is. How much more are they going to make with HST? These doc's are booked up as is-- taking the time and money to offer HST isn't going to help them.

There are a whole lot of doctors in the world who offer HT services, and they aren't all continually booked up -- only the relative handful with established reputations are. Anyone outside of that handful looking to establish and build their practices could gain a tremendous advantage by offering a supposedly superior technique available virtually nowhere else, and yet they don't. Why do you suppose that is?

[Winston]

Originally Posted by NeedHairASAP

not true.As has already been pointed out, look at the history and introduction of FUE.


HT doc's are making $200,000 to $300,000 a year as is. How much more are they going to make with HST? These doc's are booked up as is-- taking the time and money to offer HST isn't going to help them. It's more effective for them to criticize it quickly on a blog or forum and then go on with their current business models and bookings--- JUST AS THEY DID WITH FUE!!

now, instead of waisting time talking to spencer cheerleaders like CVAZ, CAN WE TALK TO SPENCER? aka the "consumer advocate"



Is spencer really going to let another week go by as evidence mounts? is he really going to act like he isn't reading this thread?





what would you do if you were the "consumer advocate" for tape players and you had a website with all the tape player manufacturer reviews and profiles... and then cd players came out.....


at this point its blatantly obvious that HST is better than FUE and STRIP so.....no sure where the "consumer advocate" has been the last month or two...

Perhaps if you were not so insulting when referring to Spencer he would actually take the time to give you an answer? I don't think you are in a position to demand anything. He provides all of this for us, including your ability to be disrespectful towards him on his own forum. I know that if Gho’s HST was for real he would be all over it. It’s the smart thing to do and would make him a fortune. He is looking out for us, but your desperateness can’t let you see the truth. Gho has been giving false hope for many years, HST is no different. There is no clinical proof, it’s nothing but marketing. Anyone can publish a paper in a “peer review” journal if the journal finds it interesting. There is also lots of politics involved in these publications. Don't be so naive.

[JJJJrS]

Originally Posted by gmonasco

There are a whole lot of doctors in the world who offer HT services, and they aren't all continually booked up -- only the relative handful with established reputations are. Anyone outside of that handful looking to establish and build their practices could gain a tremendous advantage by offering a supposedly superior technique available virtually nowhere else, and yet they don't. Why do you suppose that is?

Why weren't these less-established clinics offering FUE 15 years ago? In fact the vast majority of clinics either remained quiet or questioned the procedure! It was not until the procedure was conclusively proven that we began to see a wider level of adoption, a slow process even today.

So this argument "if Gho's claims are true, surgeons would be eager to adopt it" is not a very effective one in my opinion. Just ask Dr. Ray Woods, the original pioneer of FUE, or Spencer Kobren himself who was a part of the whole process. People aren't always open to change.

I'm sure many clinics are also waiting for that conclusive proof before they invest the huge amount of time, money, and effort that is going to be needed to offer HST. The only avenue to learn it really is through Gho and nobody knows what that process is like either.

I think we all want the same thing here though and that's conclusive proof that shows whether HST works or not.

[gc83uk]

Can someone please tell me in a sentence or two, what it is they need in order to believe there is donor regrowth? I feel like I've missed something.

I think to take the stance of, "if it really worked other Drs would have taken up this by now". That is naive.

[NeedHairASAP]

Originally Posted by JJJJrS

I think we all want the same thing here though and that's conclusive proof that shows whether HST works or not.

We want to see if there is a one for one ratio between the hairs in the extracted graph and the hairs that regrow in the donor. For example, Gho extracts a 3 hair graph and puts it in the recipient where it grows 3 hairs.... but does the donor scar heal back to another 3 hair graph?

That is the only question left to answer...

we do know FOR SURE that....

1. Down time is less
2. scarring is less
3. SOMETHING is regenerating in the donor (although it may or may not be a one for one exchange)


that all being said... it would be nice to answer that first question of the one for one exchange... BUT regardless that DOES NOT change that we should still be pushing for this over FUE and STRIP




sorry for being rude, but it has been long enough. if you have a weekly hair loss show... what else is there to talk about>? Rassman hair tats? Replicel speculation? what has he been focusing on for the last two months?

[JJJJrS]

Originally Posted by Winston

Perhaps if you were not so insulting when referring to Spencer he would actually take the time to give you an answer? I don't think you are in a position to demand anything. He provides all of this for us, including your ability to be disrespectful towards him on his own forum. I know that if Gho’s HST was for real he would be all over it. It’s the smart thing to do and would make him a fortune. He is looking out for us, but your desperateness can’t let you see the truth. Gho has been giving false hope for many years, HST is no different. There is no clinical proof, it’s nothing but marketing. Anyone can publish a paper in a “peer review” journal if the journal finds it interesting. There is also lots of politics involved in these publications. Don't be so naive.

The intention of this thread is not for Spencer Kobren to promote Dr. Gho or his procedure. All most of us really want to find out is whether the procedure works as claimed!

It shouldn't be very hard at all for Spencer to verify Dr. Gho's claims if he can get in contact with him and a patient. I really don't see why anybody would be against this initiative. Can anybody provide me a reason why Spencer shouldn't investigate HST?