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05-06-2012, 11:55 AM
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what do people on this site need for a cure?
Im just curious where most people on here consider for a personal cure. Obviously a real cure would either prevent hair-loss from ever occurring or regrow any lost hair but thats a long ways off imo.
So im curious what you guys and girls are reasonable expecting from histogen, aderans, follica, replicel? what regrowth per cm2 would you personally need to be "cured" (satisfied)
Due to how much hostility and just childish bickering have stopped really following the second to second goings on in this world lol so im out of the loop i guess.
If any of these companies is able to produce a density of 30 new hairs per cm2 I think I would be done with all the forums and rejoin society lol
based on all the info on these companies does that % seem on the low end, the reasonable expectations or never gonna happen side of things?
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05-06-2012, 11:58 AM
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For me, it would either be:
1) 50% of original density, which gives the illusion of a full head of hair
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2) enough regrowth that in combination with a hair transplant will give 50% density
I'm sure others will have a different opinion, but this would effectively be a "cure" in my eyes.
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05-06-2012, 12:04 PM
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A true "cure" would immunize hair follicles from the damaging effects of DHT. Once that is achieved, the rest will follow. Since we now know that hair follicles do not die, once they are immunized from DHT they can more eaily be repaired and restarted because you are no longer fighting against the effects of DHT. Attempting to do this without immunization is going to be a very steap uphill battle.
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05-06-2012, 12:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracy C
A true "cure" would immunize hair follicles from the damaging effects of DHT. Once that is achieved, the rest will follow. Since we now know that hair follicles do not die, once they are immunized from DHT they can more eaily be repaired and restarted because you are no longer fighting against the effects of DHT. Attempting to do this without immunization is going to be a very steap uphill battle.
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That's not true, castration doesnt regenerate hair - immunizing hair follicles against DHT wont help those at NW4,5,6,7 etc - how do you expect to "repair" the damage done to the existing follicles? I can tell you now, your own body wont give a shit - dont listen to all the Follica research nonsense about "existing stem cells in the scalp" - Follica act like they've found the cure ever 3 years or so, come out in the media waving their arms about & then retreat back into their offices where they're probably all sitting around watching porn.
A cure [holy grail] is exactly what it says on the tin, it's an affordable safe treatment that grows new sustainable limitless amounts of hair.
To the OP, the following website is a great resource to help in the quest for answers for such enigmatic enquiries:
http://www.giyf.com/
PS...anyone know where RichardDawkins has gone?
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05-06-2012, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by UK_
That's not true, castration doesnt regenerate hair...
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Castration does not immunize hair follicles from the damaging effects of DHT. If that were the case, women would not suffer with hereditary hair loss. Yet women do suffer with it as well as men.
You are not looking at the whole picture. I do not know why you are so narrow minded but you need to step back and look at all the pieces of the puzzle instead of just one or two pieces.
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05-06-2012, 08:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracy C
Castration does not immunize hair follicles from the damaging effects of DHT. If that were the case, women would not suffer with hereditary hair loss. Yet women do suffer with it as well as men.
You are not looking at the whole picture. I do not know why you are so narrow minded but you need to step back and look at all the pieces of the puzzle instead of just one or two pieces.
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Yes it does - if I castrated myself my hair loss would stop indefinately but the hair ive lost would not grow back - so how is immunization a cure? What about the millions of NW 234567 men out there? How will immunization magically grow their lost hair back? LOL
You claim I am not looking at the bigger picture... the HOLY GRAIL would also address people suffering from AA, AU and scarring alopecia - even TE .. clearly, being immune to one hormone wont do a thing for all these people - so how on earth can you tell me I am not looking at the bigger picture?
You're talking absolute horse shit.
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05-06-2012, 08:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracy C
Castration does not immunize hair follicles from the damaging effects of DHT. If that were the case, women would not suffer with hereditary hair loss. Yet women do suffer with it as well as men.
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Tracy, women do produce testosterone and therefore are subject to hairloss from DHT but not to the same degree as a man. They produce less testosterone then a man and likewise they lose less hair then a man...
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05-07-2012, 12:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UK_
PS...anyone know where RichardDawkins has gone?
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RichardDawkins was banned, he is now back at Hairsite under the name MikadoMan..
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05-06-2012, 02:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracy C
A true "cure" would immunize hair follicles from the damaging effects of DHT. Once that is achieved, the rest will follow. Since we now know that hair follicles do not die, once they are immunized from DHT they can more eaily be repaired and restarted because you are no longer fighting against the effects of DHT. Attempting to do this without immunization is going to be a very steap uphill battle.
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i though hair follicles die, however the cells that produce them do not
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05-06-2012, 03:08 PM
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I find it sad that the person with the most posts on here would be more positive and helpful. UK is just a defeated windbag whos only joy in life is forums like this and trying to get a rise out of people.
He again didnt answer anything or give anything even remotely constructive. just decided to bash Tracy's post and then.
I didnt realize google would be able to tell me whats inside the people on this forums heads but thanks.  I didnt ask what the companies were predicting but rather what members here thoughts were.
I cant get mad because uk is too far gone.
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