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    Quote Originally Posted by Davey Jones View Post
    Fin IS a 5AR inhibitor. As far as AIs go, they will definitely help with lifting, but keep in mind, you might not exactly be able to get them legally.

    Doesn't at all mean you can't get them though.
    I see. What do AIs do in terms of helping with lifting though? I thought they would just help prevent further hair loss...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldbondmafia View Post
    I see. What do AIs do in terms of helping with lifting though? I thought they would just help prevent further hair loss...?
    Put simply, AIs prevent free test from becoming estrogen. So outside of the possibility that the extra testosterone from Fin preventing conversion to DHT is left to convert to estrogen, AIs have nothing to do with hairloss.

    If you are considering taking AIs, you should look into steroid related forums. Check sections related to Post Cycle Therapy (PCT), as AIs are typically used to recover from cycles of steroids. But they can certainly be used alone with positive results.

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    And I just realized that this is the Toco-8 thread...opps, off topic.

    On topic: does anyone else make sure to take their dose with a fat? Pretty sure Vit-E is fat soluble, so it probably helps a lot with absorbtion. I do mine with a spoon full of olive oil. Gross as all f*ck at first, but you get used to it.

    Anyone else have an opinion on increasing absorption, with fat or otherwise?

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    Any good recommended sources for toco-8 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldbondmafia View Post
    Hey I was just looking back into the thread, what exactly are 5AR inhibiters? I lift weights 4 days a week and since ive upped the weight and gained more muscle last year is when i noticed my hair start thinning in spots.

    Do you recommend taking 5AR inhibiters, plus fin, and AI's aswell? Im yet to be on anything as of now..
    Unlikely weight training caused you to lose hair.

    I remember losing my most hair during a 2 year period where I did not lift weights.

    My brother also have the same pattern as me; he does not lift weights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahyeahyeah View Post
    Found 26 hairs on my pillow upon waking, first time in a while.

    After running my hands in my hair, not hair is on them.

    Guess it happens.

    I donīt really know what you mean by that? Can you explain more ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eqvist View Post
    I donīt really know what you mean by that? Can you explain more ?
    Basically when I woke up I counted the hair on my pillow, it was that man.

    Baring in MIND, I normally do not find this many on the pillow since taking toco 8 - it is a one off.

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    Sorry for being a retard but I still don´t get what you trying to say. Has It stop working for you? or why do you think that u have more hairs on your pillow now all of a sudden ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eqvist View Post
    Sorry for being a retard but I still donīt get what you trying to say. Has It stop working for you? or why do you think that u have more hairs on your pillow now all of a sudden ?
    TBH I think I am maintaining.

    Hair is quite thick.

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    Whats TBH? So you really think toco-8 is made you thicker hair?

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