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  • Conpecia
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 904

    #76
    best Gho hairline I've ever seen. Thank God.

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    • Wiffle
      Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 45

      #77
      Originally posted by didi
      What do we know now about HST and its limitations?

      1) max density is 50 to 60 FUs/cm2 (can't copy mother nature with HST)
      okay, but that max density is about the same with FUT/FUE, right?

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      • Wiffle
        Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 45

        #78
        Originally posted by Wiffle
        okay, but that max density is about the same with FUT/FUE, right?
        Also, how does this density compare with average natural density?

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        • didi
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 1360

          #79
          Average density is 80 per cm2,

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          • 534623
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 1854

            #80
            Originally posted by didi
            Average density is 80 per cm2,
            aha. interesting. so can you explain me ...



            ... why this doctor just extracted 1-hair and 2-hair grafts (with a 0.95 mm !! punch) from a guy,
            who has a young and healthy donor density of 96-104 FU/cm2 ?

            Why didn't he extract 3-hair or even 4-hair grafts/FU's "to gain more density in the recipient site" ?

            He extracted all in all 1500 FU's:
            * 674 single hair FU
            * 825 double hair FU

            So, what?

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            • 534623
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 1854

              #81
              And here we have a similar (brand new) case …



              … same doctor (I think he is a good and experienced doctor in this field), and he reports:

              Occipital donor density of ~ 80-90 FU/cm2
              (the occipital density is mostly somewhat higher than on the sides/above the ears!)

              Extracted grafts all in all: 3112 FU’s within 2 days

              * 735 single hair FU
              * 2106 double hair FU
              * 271 triple hair FU

              What? Just 271 3-hair FU’s from a virgin, young and healthy donor area?

              What happens if this guy needs a second or third FUE-Procedure?
              Will the doctor be able to extract again 271 triple hair FU’s from the patient?

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              • 534623
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 1854

                #82
                Originally posted by ccmethinning
                How many doctors post their cases online? Dozens out of perhaps 1000?
                That's right. And there're lots of other reasons involved (e.g. in some European countries, doing this is already FORBIDDEN - by law! - and with good reasons) - for example:

                Can you find online far more client reports about the VW Golf Mk2 or more about a Porsche Carrera?

                What do you think is the reason?

                But again, the mentioned reasons are just a few reasons.

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                • didi
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1360

                  #83
                  Originally posted by 534623
                  And here we have a similar (brand new) case …

                  Follicular Unit Transplantation performed on a 30 year old Caucasian male with: - NW III vertex Class N/T - Occipital donor density of ~ 80-90 FU/cm2 - Hair diameter of ~ 70-76 microns Treatment plan: A FUE procedure with 3000 FU to reconstruct zone 1, 2 , 3 and the beginning of zone 4 Performed procedure (January


                  … same doctor (I think he is a good and experienced doctor in this field), and he reports:

                  Occipital donor density of ~ 80-90 FU/cm2
                  (the occipital density is mostly somewhat higher than on the sides/above the ears!)

                  Extracted grafts all in all: 3112 FU’s within 2 days

                  * 735 single hair FU
                  * 2106 double hair FU
                  * 271 triple hair FU

                  What? Just 271 3-hair FU’s from a virgin, young and healthy donor area?

                  What happens if this guy needs a second or third FUE-Procedure?
                  Will the doctor be able to extract again 271 triple hair FU’s from the patient?


                  Why there isnt more triplets harvested?
                  Well, logical answer would be that there arent that many 3s to extract

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                  • 534623
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 1854

                    #84
                    Originally posted by didi
                    Why there isnt more triplets harvested?
                    Well, logical answer would be that there arent that many 3s to extract
                    Again ...

                    What do we know now about HST and its limitations? 1) max density is 50 to 60 FUs/cm2 (can't copy mother nature with HST) 2) 60 000 Euros for fully operational studio 3) HST is much more labour intensive than FUE 4) confirmed no splitting of grafts takes place(3 hair follicle grows as 3 hair follicle in recepient)


                    Why didn't he extract "triplets" at all in this case?

                    I mean, THIS patient is also young and healthy, and has an extraordinarily HIGH donor density. Why no 3-hair grafts at all? And why so many 1-hair grafts, instead of at least more 2-hair grafts for the CROWN area??

                    He used a 0.95 mm punch - so no problem at all to extract also 3-hair grafts with such a big punch.

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                    • 534623
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1854

                      #85
                      Originally posted by 534623
                      Again ...

                      What do we know now about HST and its limitations? 1) max density is 50 to 60 FUs/cm2 (can't copy mother nature with HST) 2) 60 000 Euros for fully operational studio 3) HST is much more labour intensive than FUE 4) confirmed no splitting of grafts takes place(3 hair follicle grows as 3 hair follicle in recepient)


                      Why didn't he extract "triplets" at all in this case?
                      didi, just in case you do not understand what I’m talking about …

                      You wrote:
                      Hi all. I'm having my first HST in a few weeks and was wondering if you guys could give me some advice on how to get as good quality pictures as Gaz (gc83uk) got. I want to document my procedure, as much for myself as anything else. I'm also willing to share these pictures if anyone wishes. Also if the rest of the guys


                      Would it be wise to advise every future HST patient to ask Gho to extract as many triples as possible,
                      im sure everyone have 1500-2000 3s , since he can cherry pick grafts why not.

                      You are getting better return on your money, Unless you do hairline where you need singles
                      but for crown and midscalp 3s and 4s are gold.

                      Does it make sense
                      Of course, it make sense. BUT ... he he

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                      • JJJJrS
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 638

                        #86
                        Originally posted by JJJJrS
                        From the early stages, it looks like a fantastic artistic result, something I wanted to see more of from HASCI:

                        Before:


                        1 week after:



                        That's what's so appealing with HST. You don't lose the option of buzzing your hair

                        To provide an update on the patient above, Tobban from a Swedish forum:



                        Although we can't do a hair count to confirm regeneration, the donor looks flawless to me after a month. He could shave his head to the skin and nobody would notice a thing. Pretty remarkable when you compare it to traditional transplants.

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