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Originally Posted by hellouser
Question!!!
If HASCI typically does about 1,600 grafts per procedure and gives approximately 35 grafts per square centimetre, this means they will cover a total area of 45cm/2;
1600 / 35 = 45
That's a LOT of space that 1,600 grafts can cover, its essentially of about 6.7cm x 6.7cm.
Is my thinking correct? Essentially, for hairline work, this is one of Dr. Gho's examples here with just over 1,300 grafts:
From this:
To this:
Wow that is an awesome result.
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Originally Posted by 534623
So far, I could still shave my head down to the bone. What you also can see in the donor-1-week-after photo, are some tiny crusts especially above/behind the ear region, which currently (Day-8) itch like crazy, because the regenerated follicles in the skin try to push out the already produced hair shafts. That means, in the after photo, the complete density isn't even still there...
Did you find that these crusts in the donor fell off with hairs attached?
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Originally Posted by c5000
Did you find that these crusts in the donor fell off with hairs attached?
In my case not really "a lot", but at least a few I noticed ...
Such grafts, when I make a closer examination, these are
1) mostly just accidental and superficial (</=1mm deep) cut off hairs.
That happens when they think that the hairs have the same direction deep in the skin as seen them superfacial - but wasn't the case finally.
2) simply unable to pull the grafts out from the dermis.
3) too many drills all at once (>50 or so) and didn't pull out a few;
In this case, the graft pops out of the hole a little it, starts immediately to shrink and/or to dry out and sheds finally.
4) Various combinations among 1)-3);
Anyway, as long as you can see a round/oval crust surrunding 1-3 hairs, custs, which look like tiny potato chips, such "grafts" are indeed grafts due to the HST drilling - and not any "shock loss" hairs.
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Originally Posted by 534623
In my case not really "a lot", but at least a few I noticed ...
Such grafts, when I make a closer examination, these are
1) mostly just accidental and superficial (</=1mm deep) cut off hairs.
That happens when they think that the hairs have the same direction deep in the skin as seen them superfacial - but wasn't the case finally.
2) simply unable to pull the grafts out from the dermis.
3) too many drills all at once (>50 or so) and didn't pull out a few;
In this case, the graft pops out of the hole a little it, starts immediately to shrink and/or to dry out and sheds finally.
4) Various combinations among 1)-3);
Anyway, as long as you can see a round/oval crust surrunding 1-3 hairs, custs, which look like tiny potato chips, such "grafts" are indeed grafts due to the HST drilling - and not any "shock loss" hairs.
It's good to hear that you have experienced this to some degree as well. Will these donor hairs/grafts grow back?
So how many more procedures do you think you will need for a full head of hair?
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IM, where is ur hair from ur fut procedures?
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Originally Posted by 534623
Interesting that you bring that up, because I just (no shYt) tried to figure that out myself by searching through all the before photos - and I have tons of them...
Anyway, I will try to post a few photos where you can see them before having any HSTs. In advance: It frustrates me to see what crazy scars I got at the back of my head for just some §%&?%$ing hairs in the front ...perhaps one reason why I always tried to avoid to look at these photos myself...
If you don't mind sharing who did your strip procedures I would be interested to know, because the strip extraction sites seems terrible. I really never knew you had undergone multiple bad strip procedures, and now your position makes a lot more sense to me.
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Hey IM. What's the deal with Gho and shock loss. Did you experience any?
Even though I think Gho should freely share his technique to improve the world and that it makes him an egg for not sharing, his procedure is sexy as hell and the closest to scarless FUE on the market.
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Originally Posted by 534623
Nevertheless, here are your beloved “mapped photos” from my 1st HST…
…which should provide what you want to find out.
FULL SIZE – Left ear side ( section 1):
http://s14.directupload.net/images/131222/54tg8fej.jpg
FULL SIZE – Occiput ( section 2):
http://s1.directupload.net/images/131222/45e54p7d.jpg
FULL SIZE – Right ear side ( section 3):
http://s1.directupload.net/images/131222/ke2echh3.jpg
As you will see, the photos are sectioned already with light blue lines. So all you (or any other guy) have to do is simply making a counting (e.g. make tiny dots into every hole etc) of each and every extraction site/hole within every section: section 1 left ear side / section 2 occiput / section 3 right ear side.
[...]
@JJJJrS – are you (still) there?
I hope you stored your IM analysis on your pc, because fileden, as you know, is gone.
IF you’re still interested about the ACCURATE regeneration rate and also about what exactly regenerated…
Analysis area shaved 1 year later:
http://s1.directupload.net/images/131222/2ruum6tf.jpg
http://s1.directupload.net/images/131222/fkanri2b.jpg
…feel free to find it out!
Simply choose the other photo (Day-2 after 2nd HST) as comparison; in case you have any doubts (“Is it a 1-hair or 2-hair graft?”) about some regenerated extraction sites. If you still have any troubles with some extraction sites, please let me know! I have lots of other close-up photos from this area (Day-0 photos), to find accurate answers finally.
Anyways, thereafter we would have at least 2 very very well and detailed analyzed reports of at least 2 similar (Caucasian) HST cases (gc + IM …
So, what's up guys?
Nobody interested anymore to debunk Dr. Coen Gho's HST technique??
Strange ...
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Originally Posted by 534623
So, what's up guys?
Nobody interested anymore to debunk Dr. Coen Gho's HST technique??
Strange ...
Don't have the time and patience for it anymore. Lost a lot of interest in the procedure too, I have to be honest.
If HASCI does a 50 graft test though, I'll analyze that. Anything that isn't manageable and conclusive really isn't worth the time.
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