Pilofocus honest discussion

[stayhopeful]

Honestly IMO it's worth it for dr W to hold out unveiling this procedure until he can figure how to produce consistent donor regeneration of at least 20%. Whether that means stem cells, a cell. Splitting follicles, or whatever. I haven't done the math but don't you think 20% regen would be enough to hold most of us off until a histogen or tsjui labs comes through?

[hellouser]

Honestly IMO it's worth it for dr W to hold out unveiling this procedure until he can figure how to produce consistent donor regeneration of at least 20%. Whether that means stem cells, a cell. Splitting follicles, or whatever. I haven't done the math but don't you think 20% regen would be enough to hold most of us off until a histogen or tsjui labs comes through?

That depends on the extent of hair loss one has. You give me 3,000-4,000 follicles and I have no more problems. But god knows how fast (or hopefully how slow) my hair loss will progress until Tsuji Labs, Dr. Lauster, Replicel, Follica or Histogen have a treatment for us to use again. For that to be even a fall back, we'd REALLY need to make sure CB-03-01 can hold us over until that time, otherwise we're playing with fire (unless youre already playing with fire by taking dick poison, i mean finasteride).

[Californication]

This can be more of a general HT question, but is still relevant here. What do you guys know of shock loss as it pertains to people with diffuse thinning? Can we still get successful-ish hair transplants that give us coverage provided we have enough donor of course? Just worried about killing existing hairs if I ever go the transplant route in the future.

[brunobald]

and this is scarless how?

tool is inserted

follicles pulled down.

both scarrable situations.

im lost.

sounds cool, but doesn't seem better than Gho....

tool is like a snake it enters from a small hole made by the surgen and goes to work under the skin pulling follicles out. I think it has a suction system which transports them to a storage device. Because they are removed from underneath this is ment to prevent scars. you can also leave your hair long. There was also talk of blowing the scalp up like a gallon for easier access and visulisation. Another benift it higher yields as you Vann extract the follicle with better accuracy.

[elvispresley]

tool is like a snake it enters from a small hole made by the surgen and goes to work under the skin pulling follicles out. I think it has a suction system which transports them to a storage device. Because they are removed from underneath this is ment to prevent scars. you can also leave your hair long. There was also talk of blowing the scalp up like a gallon for easier access and visulisation. Another benift it higher yields as you Vann extract the follicle with better accuracy.

guys do you have a link that explains how this Pilofocus works?
thanks

[hellouser]

Found this bit in the patent for Pilofocus:

Communication between these two stem-cell enriched areas promotes hair follicle regeneration. Other components of an intact hair follicle 202 include a hair shaft 218, an inner root sheath 222, an outer root sheath 224, and a sebaceous gland 228.

Source: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2013/0096600.html

Anyone care to comment? Even Dr. Wesley has a video clip on his own site where Spencer talks about the belief for donor regeneration.

Its about fvcking time we got donor regeneration, at least to some degree (50% would be great, 30% minimum though).

I really hope Dr. Wesley can pull this off... if he does, I swear to god I'll buy him beer for LIFE.

[Brock Landers]

I really don't see why anyone sees Pilofocus as better than what's on the market.

1) Gho Clinic does scarless with regeneration. Even if the regeneration figure is questionable, everyone on the forum states that the recepient has been scarless.

2) Dr. Cole says he can get 20%-60% regeneration with Acell and has showed pics of recepients with little or no scarring.

I really don't think Pilofocus is any better than what is out there.

[stayhopeful]

Found this bit in the patent for Pilofocus:



Source: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2013/0096600.html

Anyone care to comment? Even Dr. Wesley has a video clip on his own site where Spencer talks about the belief for donor regeneration.

Its about fvcking time we got donor regeneration, at least to some degree (50% would be great, 30% minimum though).

I really hope Dr. Wesley can pull this off... if he does, I swear to god I'll buy him beer for LIFE.

A beer for life? If this has documented and consistent regeneration, along with the other proposed benefits, I will offer dr W anything he wants forever... This is exciting

[35YrsAfter]

Found this bit in the patent for Pilofocus:



Source: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2013/0096600.html

Anyone care to comment? Even Dr. Wesley has a video clip on his own site where Spencer talks about the belief for donor regeneration.

Its about fvcking time we got donor regeneration, at least to some degree (50% would be great, 30% minimum though).

I really hope Dr. Wesley can pull this off... if he does, I swear to god I'll buy him beer for LIFE.

Dr. Cole has been documenting follicle regeneration in his patient's donor areas for years using ACell. ACell was approved by the FDA as a regenerative product. It's only available to physicians in the US. After a minimal depth follicle extraction, a gel containing ACell in suspension is placed in the extraction site. We have seen donor area regeneration up to 70%. around 50% is average. People find this hard to believe. ACell was not developed by a hair restoration physician. It has many medical applications and has been used to build human heart valves. The brother of a developer of extracellular matrix cut off the end of his finger in the propeller of a model airplane. He applied extracellular matrix powder and regrew the end of his finger. See video here.

35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office

https://www.forhair.com

Cole Hair Transplant
1045 Powers Place
Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
Phone 678-566-1011
email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

[stayhopeful]

Dr. Cole has been documenting follicle regeneration in his patient's donor areas for years using ACell. ACell was approved by the FDA as a regenerative product. It's only available to physicians in the US. After a minimal depth follicle extraction, a gel containing ACell in suspension is placed in the extraction site. We have seen donor area regeneration up to 70%. around 50% is average. People find this hard to believe. ACell was not developed by a hair restoration physician. It has many medical applications and has been used to build human heart valves. The brother of a developer of extracellular matrix cut off the end of his finger in the propeller of a model airplane. He applied extracellular matrix powder and regrew the end of his finger. See video here.

35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office

https://www.forhair.com

Cole Hair Transplant
1045 Powers Place
Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
Phone 678-566-1011
email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

Instead of providing a link to some indirect website, could you please provide some substantial evidence to the aforementioned claim about HAIR regeneration. I mean, if there is consistent 50% regeneration, then it is a true shame that the procedure is not being practiced by all hair restoration surgeons. And what about teaming up with dr Wesley. Could you imagine if we lived in a world where dr cole and dr W would team up to actually perfect a technique to save all of our lives, instead of everyone trying to do things on their own and failing like usual. Ya know, like sharing expertise and knowledge to create a more powerful product... What a far fetched idea, huh

[hellouser]

Instead of providing a link to some indirect website, could you please provide some substantial evidence to the aforementioned claim about HAIR regeneration. I mean, if there is consistent 50% regeneration, then it is a true shame that the procedure is not being practiced by all hair restoration surgeons. And what about teaming up with dr Wesley. Could you imagine if we loved in a world where dr cole and dr W would team up to actually perfect a technique to save all of our lives, instead of everyone trying to do things on their own and failing like usual

A couple problems with that kind of thinking:

1) Its utopian thought
2) Most people value money over integrity

[The Alchemist]

Dr. Cole has been documenting follicle regeneration in his patient's donor areas for years using ACell. ACell was approved by the FDA as a regenerative product. It's only available to physicians in the US. After a minimal depth follicle extraction, a gel containing ACell in suspension is placed in the extraction site. We have seen donor area regeneration up to 70%. around 50% is average. People find this hard to believe. ACell was not developed by a hair restoration physician. It has many medical applications and has been used to build human heart valves. The brother of a developer of extracellular matrix cut off the end of his finger in the propeller of a model airplane. He applied extracellular matrix powder and regrew the end of his finger. See video here.

35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office

https://www.forhair.com

Cole Hair Transplant
1045 Powers Place
Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
Phone 678-566-1011
email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

Has Dr Cole published these findings, or are there any plans to?

[35YrsAfter]

Instead of providing a link to some indirect website, could you please provide some substantial evidence to the aforementioned claim about HAIR regeneration. I mean, if there is consistent 50% regeneration, then it is a true shame that the procedure is not being practiced by all hair restoration surgeons. And what about teaming up with dr Wesley. Could you imagine if we lived in a world where dr cole and dr W would team up to actually perfect a technique to save all of our lives, instead of everyone trying to do things on their own and failing like usual. Ya know, like sharing expertise and knowledge to create a more powerful product... What a far fetched idea, huh

ACell is of little to no value when used in strip donor areas and of little value when full-depth FUE extractions are taken.

The technology is there. As I mentioned, hair restoration physicians didn't develop this. When used properly, it works as advertised. ACell was approved by the FDA as a regenerative product. The company, ACell had to prove the effectiveness of their extracellular matrix products to the FDA before they could legally sell their products to physicians. I remember overhearing a discussion between Dr. Raymond Konior and Dr. Cole where they expressed mutual disgust at the reality that hair restoration physicians generally take 10 years to get onboard with effective new technology.

Take a look at acell.com. There are a great number of papers from respected sources discussing the merits of extracellular matrix as a regenerative product.

35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office

https://www.forhair.com

Cole Hair Transplant
1045 Powers Place
Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
Phone 678-566-1011
email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

[brunobald]

ACell is of little to no value when used in strip donor areas and of little value when full-depth FUE extractions are taken.

The technology is there. As I mentioned, hair restoration physicians didn't develop this. When used properly, it works as advertised. ACell was approved by the FDA as a regenerative product. The company, ACell had to prove the effectiveness of their extracellular matrix products to the FDA before they could legally sell their products to physicians. I remember overhearing a discussion between Dr. Raymond Konior and Dr. Cole where they expressed mutual disgust at the reality that hair restoration physicians generally take 10 years to get onboard with effective new technology.

Take a look at acell.com. There are a great number of papers from respected sources discussing the merits of extracellular matrix as a regenerative product.

35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office

https://www.forhair.com

Cole Hair Transplant
1045 Powers Place
Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
Phone 678-566-1011
email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

Hi, has Dr cole ever tried removing miniturised hairs in bald areas and injecting acell just like he would in a donor area. If the mechanism for regrowth is the same all over the scalp you would assume acell could also regen these follicules. If this worked you could use an artas robot to remove or partialy remove miniturised hair folicules and inject acell.

[TheSwingingGate]

Good question Brunobald.