WTF?!? Did Replicel work or not???

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  • suicidal
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 4

    WTF?!? Did Replicel work or not???

    50% of people are saying it was positive, 50% are saying FAIL. Where can i go to find out objectively??? WTF
  • clandestine
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 2005

    #2
    Read the results. They are, in fact, objective.

    People interpret said results, post on forums. A person's opinion is, naturally, subjective.

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    • ccmethinning
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 326

      #3
      does 3.5% more terminal hairs sound like success to you? Does delaying the announcement and retracting the pump statements sound like confidence?

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      • ejj
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 342

        #4
        will be marketed the same as regain and propecia i think, with the usual line of " may improve hair growth "

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        • inkt2002
          Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 36

          #5
          Originally posted by suicidal
          50% of people are saying it was positive, 50% are saying FAIL. Where can i go to find out objectively??? WTF
          Just follow what the stock has done the last 5 days. Money doesn't lie.

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          • NeedHairASAP
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 1410

            #6
            Originally posted by ccmethinning
            does 3.5% more terminal hairs sound like success to you? Does delaying the announcement and retracting the pump statements sound like confidence?
            this is merely subjective. the results, are, simply, objective. success is just something in your mind... man... ask clandstine

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            • ccmethinning
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 326

              #7
              Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
              this is merely subjective. the results, are, simply, objective. success is just something in your mind... man... ask clandstine
              The results aren't even purely objective. They were evaluated using Dr. Hoffmann's own Trichoscan software, evaluated by the company, headlined "RepliCel releases 'positive' results" and filled with positive words from Hall and Panich.

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              • suicidal
                Junior Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 4

                #8
                The results were not objective AT ALL. They said "pleased to report positive results"

                So... wtf!?!? People who think Replicel failed are saying the yahoo report is lying? I just don't get it.

                at sites injected with autologous DSCC increased 6.1%.

                so we get 6% more hair in general?

                Vellus hair (small/intermediate sized-hair: approximately 10-40um thick) density and terminal hair (thick hair) density increased by 12.5% and 3.2%

                so 12% of thinning hair we have now also gets thicker?

                If I could have 6% more hair,and 12% of my thinning hair return to normal I would gladly take it! Why is that fail?


                Cumulative hair thickness per area (an estimate of scalp hair coverage; the sum of thickness of all hair diameters in a given area per cm2) also improved (by 4.3%)

                what does this mean?

                The interim analysis results showed a statistically significant difference (P=0.020) between the number of patients demonstrating a greater than =5% increase in total hair density at sites injected with DSCC relative to sites injected with placebo 6 months post-injection. Where 63% of patients demonstrated a greater than =+5% change from baseline at DSCC-treated sites, only 37% showed such an increase at placebo-treated sites.

                what does this mean objectively?

                There were 19 subjects (10 male, 9 female) and 3 were removed. So this is data for 16 people. How many got placebo? From the data can we tell how many actually grew more hair and how much? Will they release raw data... The data they released it seems we cannot even tell anything. WTF!?!?!??!

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                • Tracy C
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 3125

                  #9
                  Originally posted by suicidal
                  So... wtf!?!? People who think Replicel failed are saying the yahoo report is lying? I just don't get it.
                  The people who are saying Replicel has failed don't get it.

                  A 12.5% increase in vellus hair and a 3% increase in terminal hair in only six months is a big deal. Such an increase would help someone like me a lot, especially after a year when more of that vellus hair transforms into terminal hair. If by the end of the cycle it is still not enough, I could just have another treatment.



                  Originally posted by inkt2002
                  Just follow what the stock has done the last 5 days. Money doesn't lie.
                  All that means is too many people with enough money to buy stocks are just plain stupid. Like totally dead from the neck up stupid.

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                  • gmonasco
                    Inactive
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 883

                    #10
                    Originally posted by suicidal
                    Where can i go to find out objectively?
                    At this point there isn't enough information to make a truly objective determination. While the results of the first trial were not encouraging, it was primarily a safety trial and not a full-blown efficacy trial. It's possible that a subsequent trial focusing solely on efficacy may produce different results.

                    Whether it's likely that a subsequent trial will produce better results is a subjective issue.

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                    • inkt2002
                      Member
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 36

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Tracy C
                      The people who are saying Replicel has failed don't get it.

                      A 12.5% increase in vellus hair and a 3% increase in terminal hair in only six months is a big deal. Such an increase would help someone like me a lot, especially after a year when more of that vellus hair transforms into terminal hair. If by the end of the cycle it is still not enough, I could just have another treatment.





                      All that means is too many people with enough money to buy stocks are just plain stupid. Like totally dead from the neck up stupid.
                      Sorry Tracy, the aggregate market is a much better discounter of information than you. "Stupid money" gets engulfed by "smart money" making any nonsensical price moves transitory. What the market has done to this stock the last few days speaks volumes and has much more credence over people posting on this site.

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                      • jman91
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 238

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ccmethinning
                        The results aren't even purely objective. They were evaluated using Dr. Hoffmann's own Trichoscan software, evaluated by the company, headlined "RepliCel releases 'positive' results" and filled with positive words from Hall and Panich.

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