Will minoxidil work forever?

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  • mkay
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 5

    Will minoxidil work forever?

    I keep hearing about guys who become bald after using it for 7 years or so or when they turn 35
  • 8868alex
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 279

    #2
    Hi

    Minoxidil will only perform a certain function. Essentially, it is a growth stimulant but it won't block dht, and therefore the underlying cause of mpb. For that you would need Propecia. The 2 of them together do provide a synergistic effect as they address the problem on differant levels. Used in isolation, it will probably buy you some time while you debate incorporating other therapies.

    I was in a position for about ten years whereupon I thought Minoxidil would "do the business" alone, as it were. It did help and luckily I did'nt lose much ground, but I ultimately chose to add Propecia a few years ago. Personally that was a good move for me. I guess it depends what your individual situation is. Contact an IAHRS doctor and get an expert opinion.

    Good luck!

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    • Tracy C
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 3125

      #3
      Originally posted by mkay
      Will minoxidil work forever?
      Eventually DHT can overpower Minoxidil's ability to stimulate hair to grow. The stronger of the two will likely win - and DHT is pretty potent. Increasing the strength of the Minoxidil you use to something above 5% will not help. Lowering DHT helps. Your best chances of arresting hereditary hair loss and possibly reversing some of it is to use both a medicine to block DHT formation (or reception for females) and a medicine to stimulate hair to grow.

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      • khan
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 151

        #4
        So will minox combined with Finasteride work for a long time? or will I eventually loose everything I gained from Minox and its just the Fin trying to save my hair?


        Originally posted by Tracy C
        Eventually DHT can overpower Minoxidil's ability to stimulate hair to grow. The stronger of the two will likely win - and DHT is pretty potent. Increasing the strength of the Minoxidil you use to something above 5% will not help. Lowering DHT helps. Your best chances of arresting hereditary hair loss and possibly reversing some of it is to use both a medicine to block DHT formation (or reception for females) and a medicine to stimulate hair to grow.

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        • 8868alex
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 279

          #5
          Did you watch / listen to the last episode of the Bald Truth?.. Spencer's friend Rafael was a guest on there. He has maintained his hair on Propecia for 14 years with no further loss. There are no guarantees but we have to make do with what we have. Arm youself appropriately and hope for the best. I think new treatments will soon surpass the effectiveness of the current modalities we have sooner rather than later!.

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          • Tracy C
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 3125

            #6
            Originally posted by khan
            So will minox combined with Finasteride work for a long time?
            For some it will, for others it won't. The only way to find out is to use the medicines.



            Originally posted by 8868alex
            I think new treatments will soon surpass the effectiveness of the current modalities we have sooner rather than later!.
            I feel the same way.

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            • khan
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 151

              #7
              Originally posted by 8868alex
              I think new treatments will soon surpass the effectiveness of the current modalities we have sooner rather than later!.

              Yea that would be great! But in his show with Rafael as guest, Spencer says he expects the cost to be a minimum of 20k atleast initally. Its not alot if its a permenant fix, but I was hoping for maybe a little. I guess I will have to start saving soon.

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              • john2399
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 527

                #8
                Anyone know if minoxidil is effective if only used once a day instead of twice?

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                • Tracy C
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 3125

                  #9
                  Originally posted by khan
                  Spencer says he expects the cost to be a minimum of 20k atleast initally.
                  I don't think he was serious about that. If you go back and re-listen to the program he states shortly after that he thinks it will cost about the same as a good hair transplant, which is not usually as high as 20k - which is also in line with what David Hall from Replicel said. Personally, I think the cost would likely depend on how much you need. For example the cost for someone like me who only needs more density should not be as high as it would be for a male who is a Norwood VI or a female who is a Ludwig III.

                  In any event, it is usually best to prepare for the worst and hope for the best. So save up as if it will be 20K. That way if it isn't, you have some extra money left over to go out and celebrate with after your treatment.

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                  • Tracy C
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 3125

                    #10
                    Originally posted by john2399
                    Anyone know if minoxidil is effective if only used once a day instead of twice?
                    Yes it is. It is not as effective as it is if used twice per day but it is effective - and better than not using it at all if you need it. Personally, I think it is probably better to start off slow by using it only once a day every other day then gradually work up to the full twice a day dose over time.

                    What some people do, myself included, is use Rogaine foam in the morning because it is so convenient and stealthy, then use the generic liquid in the evening because it is a lot less expensive. If you are in the U.S., generic foam became available this month. So that can save a little more money too.

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                    • 8868alex
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 279

                      #11
                      Originally posted by khan
                      Yea that would be great! But in his show with Rafael as guest, Spencer says he expects the cost to be a minimum of 20k atleast initally. Its not alot if its a permenant fix, but I was hoping for maybe a little. I guess I will have to start saving soon.

                      Yeah, I remember hearing that too. I think one could assume that much like a transplant, the larger the "job" (area / degree of loss, etc), the higher the price for surgery. Therefore, I would imagine a similar rule would apply to Replicel, Histogen, etc. By saving as much hair as possible prior to the new therapies, you are probably doing yourself a favour in terms of both price and quite likely effectiveness of new treatments. This is just my theory though!

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                      • 8868alex
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 279

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Tracy C
                        I don't think he was serious about that. If you go back and re-listen to the program he states shortly after that he thinks it will cost about the same as a good hair transplant, which is not usually as high as 20k - which is also in line with what David Hall from Replicel said. Personally, I think the cost would likely depend on how much you need. For example the cost for someone like me who only needs more density should not be as high as it would be for a male who is a Norwood VI or a female who is a Ludwig III.

                        In any event, it is usually best to prepare for the worst and hope for the best. So save up as if it will be 20K. That way if it isn't, you have some extra money left over to go out and celebrate with after your treatment.
                        Just read this post - I agree and hope this is the case also.

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                        • Tracy C
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 3125

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 8868alex
                          By saving as much hair as possible prior to the new therapies, you are probably doing yourself a favour in terms of both price and quite likely effectiveness of new treatments. This is just my theory though!
                          I fully agree with this. I feel you are not just doing yourself a favor - but you could be doing yourself a very big favor if you are able to reverse some of your hair loss with the treatments that are currently available. Even if you can only recover a little bit of hair. A little bit of hair can make a big difference in how you look as well as make a difference in how much of these furture treatments you would need.

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