View Full Version : Hmm Capixyl?
TheDude
03-27-2011, 12:06 PM
I came across this today..
http://www.unipexinnovations.com/en/news-events/press-release.php?id=54&y=2011
What do you guys think?
Hey there, sounds pretty good to me!
Anything better than minox (as they say) is always welcome :)
I'm really considering getting it, but first I need to contact them cuz things don't get to Portugal that fast (since it's a brand new product)...
If it proves to be effective, it will be perfect to slow down my hair loss, and give time to Aderans or Histogen appear in the market. I'll let u guys know if I get it and share my results.
Thanks a lot for sharing this with us!
Thinning@30
03-27-2011, 02:25 PM
Interesting...the website doesn't really give much information. It claims the product has been proven to be "more effective than the reference product on the market," but what exactly did the clinical studies entail? What were the protocols? Were there hair counts? What was the "reference product," and how did they measure effectiveness? Perhaps the biggest question of all, where are the before and after pictures showing that users of this product experienced a cosmetically significant benefit?
This product seemed to come out of nowhere, so I have a lot of questions. I noticed the website mentions that the product contains peptides. It's important to remember that with the next generation of hair loss treatmentscomes the next generation of hair loss scams. Now that Aderans and Histogen are part of the community's collective consciousness, I'm sure every snake oil company is going to start claiming that their product contains peptides or stem cells or some other such nonsense.
I'm not saying that this is a scam, in fact I really hope it is not, but we should be very skeptical of new products. As I've said before, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Has anyone tried contacting the company to see what other information they have?
Very true Thining@30, I just sent a request to them for more information about the science behind it, and also proof of how effective they claim it to be.
I'll post the answer here.
ohlife
03-27-2011, 02:59 PM
"CapixylTM is a clinically proven alternative to address hair loss and boost hair growth!"
Why do they have to use an exclamation mark at the end? talk about scam rhetoric. On the other hand, they are talking about clinical trials, presentations, whilst making bold claims etc. So it could be worth checking out, whatever it is. Get on it guys, I'll keep my interest latent while you brave men jump in at the deep end ;)
ohlife
03-27-2011, 08:47 PM
In fact, going off the company's website, it seems as though they're behind the technology but won't actually be the one's marketing it somehow... seems very odd tbh.
Ah, the in-cosmetics trade show, where it is being presented, takes place tomorrow in Milan I think.
AgainstThis
03-27-2011, 09:37 PM
*deep sigh*
Guys, this is just reinforced Minoxidil, much in the vein of Xandrox.
Same hassles, same -more or less- gains, I would hardly call it a "Cutting Edge" treatment. No matter how they sell minox, it's still minox.
ohlife
03-27-2011, 09:43 PM
Right, but is it actually, literally minoxidil? as in, minoxidil, with, say 'x' .. I think, in this case, 'red clover extract'. On the same note, what the fuck is a peptide?
AgainstThis
03-27-2011, 09:50 PM
You can Wiki peptides.
In simple, layman's terms they are small particles of any given substance that are absorbed biologically. I.e copper peptides that are famously good for your hair and included in a lot of the high-end "anti-hairloss" shampoos. Not really proven to be effective, at least to a degree that it would make a noticeable difference.
And yes, it is Minoxidl with clover and bells and whistles. If you research similar "brand name" Minox solutions, they never come right out and tell you "Hey it's minox!" because then you could just get the generic version and they'd lose a pretty penny over it.
With proven treatments, ALWAYS go for the generic version. Saves you a TON of money and you're getting the same chemicals.
KeepHoping
03-27-2011, 10:01 PM
Is minoxidil in the ingredients?
ohlife
03-27-2011, 10:48 PM
Yeah that's what I mean... wouldn't they have to say that Minoxidil is in the ingredients? they can't just come up with another name for it.. In fact, if you google the said peptide - 'Acetyl Tetrapeptide-3' - in google, nothing regarding minoxidil comes up?
Here's the link for the specifics of the product btw:
http://www.unipexinnovations.com/en/products/product.php?id=38&from=cat
Thinning@30
03-28-2011, 06:59 AM
The website claims "higher efficacy than minoxidil." What exactly does this mean? If this is true, then there must be another active ingredient.
Also, I can't tell what form this product takes. Is it a pill? A topical? An oral version of minoxidil would be welcome since I find the topical version intolerable. It leaves my hair looking and feeling greasy and matted down. Once the minoxidil goes in, I can pretty much forget about styling my hair or looking presentable. Not to mention the serious scalp irritation that I get after several days of applications.
TheDude
03-28-2011, 10:10 AM
Hay guys..
Well i contacted them today and the person i spoke to explained to me that Capixyl is something that will be sold in the form of say a shampoo, so in effect it will be an important ingredient in the shampoo and will therefore not make up the entire shampoo.. so this answers the question of whether or not they will be marketing it with a clear no..
Basically Unipex is showing Capixyl off at the Milan show so as to sell it to someone like say Loreal etc. who will then market it in the form of a shampoo or maybe something else..
I dont think its a stronger more proficient version of minox but i could be wrong.. 7 yrs of development is a long time to create something that is just a better version of minox, but thats my opinion. What will be interesting is the release of their clinical trials which i don't know..
What is unclear to me then is if its an ingredient in say a shampoo then we still have to wait fro someone to buy it and then start selling it to the public.. that is my understanding, which unfortunately could take some time..
But nonetheless another step in the right direction
By the way its definitely not going to be in the form of a pill.. that was explicitly mentioned
johnnyboots
03-28-2011, 03:51 PM
any idea when this may be available?
ohlife
03-28-2011, 04:14 PM
I'd be happy with something coming out of no where that was 46% more effective than minoxidil and didn't require me to leave it on my scalp all day, but still..
KeepHoping
03-28-2011, 08:04 PM
I think it's available for order through the website, call one of the distributors and see if you can order it. I'm not sure you have to wait for a company to invest in it...
Thinning@30
03-29-2011, 07:37 PM
I'm surprised there hasn't been more attention surrounding this product. A topical that is more effective than minoxidil and doesn't have to be left on the scalp is big news. If it works as indicated, I don't understand why distributors wouldn't be falling over themselves trying to get ahold of it.
KeepTheHair
03-29-2011, 10:01 PM
HOW is this minox?
KeepHoping
03-30-2011, 07:48 PM
Can we order this already by calling the distributor number listed on their website? It says that the product has been released, I'd certainly try it out.
ohlife
03-30-2011, 07:50 PM
go for it! I'd definitely want to see it tested by other's first.
Flowers
03-30-2011, 11:35 PM
This is interesting, apparently their tests/trials showed 46% thickness increase. But uhh, where are the pics? The site has only one brief page about it. If this was so effective (and ready to be sold) I'm pretty sure they'd want people to know...
johnnyboots
03-31-2011, 02:17 AM
Can we order this already by calling the distributor number listed on their website? It says that the product has been released, I'd certainly try it out.
let me know if you were able to order,i e-mailed them 3 days ago.still no response.
tr0jan
04-01-2011, 06:09 AM
ok guys , ive got some gd news. I've had a great phone conversation with these people. they seem very legit. they were really nice explaining about the product. it's supposed to work as minoxidil but a bit better , that's what the guy said. he also sent me this file about capyxil.http://rapidshare.com/files/455410854/Unipex_onepager_Canitie_2_.pdf
it's only available in france now and it's for free for people to test it !!!
crashul
04-01-2011, 12:26 PM
Trojan, I live in France and would like to test it. Who said you can get it in France? I can't find it on the internet. Do you have a link?
KeepHoping
04-01-2011, 01:51 PM
Does this mean that anyone can test it or only French citizens?
KeepTheHair
04-01-2011, 02:38 PM
You can Wiki peptides.
In simple, layman's terms they are small particles of any given substance that are absorbed biologically. I.e copper peptides that are famously good for your hair and included in a lot of the high-end "anti-hairloss" shampoos. Not really proven to be effective, at least to a degree that it would make a noticeable difference.
And yes, it is Minoxidl with clover and bells and whistles. If you research similar "brand name" Minox solutions, they never come right out and tell you "Hey it's minox!" because then you could just get the generic version and they'd lose a pretty penny over it.
With proven treatments, ALWAYS go for the generic version. Saves you a TON of money and you're getting the same chemicals.
*deep sigh*
Guys, this is just reinforced Minoxidil, much in the vein of Xandrox.
Same hassles, same -more or less- gains, I would hardly call it a "Cutting Edge" treatment. No matter how they sell minox, it's still minox.
*deep sigh*
STOP PRETENDING TO KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT.
KeepHoping
04-01-2011, 06:21 PM
I don't really understand what it's only available in France and free for people to test it, so you can only buy it if you're a French citizen? Or can you order it from France and have it shipped?
Thinning@30
04-10-2011, 10:18 AM
OK. Does anyone have more information about this that they can post here? I've tried the links and they don't work. Has anyone started trialing this product?
Even if this is just minoxidil in shampoo form, I would try it. I can't tolerate the current forms of minoxidil. It makes my hair so matted and greasy that there is no way I can make myself look presentable while the stuff is in my hair. I've tried applying the stuff before bedtime only, but it leaves these awful greasy stains on my pillows that won't come out.
Jcm800
04-10-2011, 10:42 AM
I'd give this stuff a go as well, tho I think I'm going to embark on some Minox foam for my hairline and see how I get on with that in the meantime.
I'm watching this space too tho, seems worth a try as and when possible.
TheDude
04-13-2011, 09:24 AM
Check this out!!
http://www.cosmeticsdesign.com/content/download/137651/3296366/version/3/file/Unipex%20onepager%20Capixyl.pdf
Flowers
04-13-2011, 02:51 PM
Check this out!!
http://www.cosmeticsdesign.com/content/download/137651/3296366/version/3/file/Unipex%20onepager%20Capixyl.pdf
Damn that looks pretty awesome I just wanna know on what percentage of the group it worked for, but also when it goes on sale cuz I'll be trying it for sure
Jcm800
04-13-2011, 03:50 PM
Looks interesting if nothing else. I'm keen to hear more about this stuff for sure.
Dutch_Dude
04-15-2011, 12:24 AM
When is this going to come out? Is it a lotion, shampoo...? Where is it from...?
Flowers
04-15-2011, 01:22 PM
When is this going to come out? Is it a lotion, shampoo...? Where is it from...?
I think I remember reading that it's a shampoo and that it's being premiered at some cosmetics show for a company to pick up
Jcm800
04-15-2011, 01:34 PM
Fingers crossed about this stuff eh
If its a shampoo i am very sceptical as how many shampoos such as nisim and many others have not regrown hair,and many people have said that water just wash any substance off,there is alpecin but that has a lotion as well,it would be a miracle if it did work and easy to apply.
But i would like to try if we can get it.
whynot
04-25-2011, 02:05 PM
Could be something like Revivogen where it makes a bit of a media splash and is never heard from again.
thats right w but only time will tell,lets face it every time we hear any new product we are still waiting for the the one that works,but most of these products do not even compete with minoxidil or propecia,dutasteride i am on the latter 0.5mgs a day and it is certainly the best thing so far ive used.:eek:
HairTalk
04-26-2011, 01:49 PM
How the hell does the flier present a before- and an after-image of scalps, when it simultaneously claims the clinical study being cited was performed ex vivo?
AHAHAHAHAHHAAAA This looks so suspect its funny... I love their little pdf release, i'd go back to what Thinning@30 said - we're all into the "stem cell/peptide/ECM/matrix/neo/morpheus lingo and the snake oil industry is merely aligning itself with its newly founded sophisticated audience.
I wonder if it contains Saw Palmetto... man if it does then I am SOLD!!!!! lol :D
How the hell does the flier present a before- and an after-image of scalps, when it simultaneously claims the clinical study being cited was performed ex vivo?
Because it's classic SNAKE OIL Hair tonic! hahahahahaaaa:D
its called hair now gone tommorrow hahahaha:eek: