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rotsen182
01-04-2010, 06:16 PM
im 36 years old from Peru, started with hair problems 8 years ago, been holding on with natural treatments until 3 years ago, got tired of wasting time and money on promises since last year experienced a mayor hair loss so i decided 3 months ago to jump on big 3 wagon, here some pics

posted some pics

1 is before treatment
2 is 1 month into treatment
3 2 months



i see no results yet but feel mi hair a little bit stronger and darker
maybe its just me.

ill keep posting

g k
01-06-2010, 09:19 AM
Well your hair should get stronger and darker...That is the vellus hairs going back to terminal hairs. I've heard it can take up to 2 years to see the full results. Just give it time and hopefully you will see some moderate to great results.

The pics are not showing up. Put them up again! There is nothing I like more than seeing pictures of peoples hair growing back.

Cheers

rotsen182
01-06-2010, 12:07 PM
my bad.... let me know if u can see them now..

Joelle
01-06-2010, 12:38 PM
I totally see a difference from the beginning pict to your 2 months later!! I think it's working for you!

rotsen182
01-06-2010, 12:41 PM
hope so... tanxs for the support..

g k
01-06-2010, 12:42 PM
The difference is amazing for only 2 months...All the thin hair has grown thick...

After 9 months you'll be laughing!! Congrats

rotsen182
01-09-2010, 09:55 AM
pictures might be deceiving so i buzz my hair and took 2 new pics from different angles and natural light 75 days with big 3

g k
01-09-2010, 07:27 PM
When I flip back and forth between your first image and the new ones...I definately see a difference. Right on!

Zao
01-09-2010, 10:40 PM
I definitely see a positive difference too! I just posted to a young kid advising him to buzz his hair like yours. You guys might want to help him out too. He was brave enough to post full face pictures. He’s only 20 and can use some advice from the vets here.
http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=2046

missingmyhair
01-10-2010, 06:15 PM
Rotsen,

I definitely see an improvement. I hope that it keeps getting better for you! Keep sharing pics.

rotsen182
01-14-2010, 01:28 PM
thanxs a lot for all the positive posts, i just lost my camera son i wont post any new pics antil i buy a new one..

tanxs again for the support.

rotsen182
01-14-2010, 01:30 PM
..............

Ragckr
01-15-2010, 02:18 AM
It could be the lighting, but I notice a pretty solid difference between the photos. If that is really just 2 months, I'd say you are in for one heck of a pleasant response to finasteride.

Congratulations!

rotsen182
01-30-2010, 12:24 PM
well today its 3 months since i started my regimen. here is a new pic , didnt buzz my hair because its not my style so im gonna keep it as short as possible .. since last month i lowered the dose o minox , only once a day and finas 5mg cut in 6

missingmyhair
01-30-2010, 12:58 PM
wow, looking very nice up there! what exactly is the "big 3"? i see the minox/rogaine and propecia/fin, what is the 3rd?

rotsen182
01-30-2010, 02:35 PM
ketokenazol shampoo 2%. is the 3rd big. in my case doctor prescribed ketokenazol 2% + salicilic acid 3% alltogether in a 120ml shampoo solution, i think its what is working best for me, got rid of sebum..

g k
01-30-2010, 11:47 PM
Jackpot dude. How happy are you?

rotsen182
01-31-2010, 05:17 AM
very very happy, not only that, i feel stronger working out and sports seems to be easier..

rotsen182
02-06-2010, 02:35 PM
a picture showing my progress 90 days into treatment

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7641/antesdespuesc.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/i/antesdespuesc.jpg/)

g k
02-06-2010, 05:03 PM
Wow I bet you've got a lot of comments...

Great job!

My best advice i can give you is to stay very consistent with your program. Do not alter it for any reason, unless you start getting sides. In which case do not panic and drop it all together, adjust the dosage to slightly lower. It is easy to off set your hormones and cause a shedding.

You should be very happy! I'm sure you will continue to see improvement still.

You might have to celebrate by growing your hair out and getting a trendy style!!!

rotsen182
02-06-2010, 05:08 PM
Wow I bet you've got a lot of comments...

Great job!

My best advice i can give you is to stay very consistent with your program. Do not alter it for any reason, unless you start getting sides. In which case do not panic and drop it all together, adjust the dosage to slightly lower. It is easy to off set your hormones and cause a shedding.

You should be very happy! I'm sure you will continue to see improvement still.

You might have to celebrate by growing your hair out and getting a trendy style!!!


tanxs for your kind words. yeah some people say that i had a HT lol... i already changed my treatment starting on month 3 i lowered the finastride ( due to strong sides ) dose cutting the pill in 6 , minoxidil only at night and keto shampoo dayli ..

from now on i can let my hair to grow longer

cheers

g k
02-06-2010, 05:41 PM
Nice...

So you are taking 1/6th of a pill a day?

I take 1/3rd a day and get very nice results.

rotsen182
02-06-2010, 05:49 PM
Nice...

So you are taking 1/6th of a pill a day?

I take 1/3rd a day and get very nice results.


when i was taking 1/4 a day i had brain fog big time i was like zombie all day, 1/3 is a lot it seem that u can tolerate fin much better than me ..
cheers ill be looking up your case

g k
02-11-2010, 10:02 AM
when i was taking 1/4 a day i had brain fog big time i was like zombie all day, 1/3 is a lot it seem that u can tolerate fin much better than me ..
cheers ill be looking up your case


Hey I was wondering if you could tell me if you experienced less results by using 1/6 propecia?
Do any of your pics represent results from this dosage?

Could you please tell me about your reduced sides and effectiveness on your hair after you reduced to this dosage. I think I would like to make a switch and every time I think of doing it I think of your case and your great results.

Thanks man.

rotsen182
02-11-2010, 10:13 AM
Hey I was wondering if you could tell me if you experienced less results by using 1/6 propecia?
Do any of your pics represent results from this dosage?

Could you please tell me about your reduced sides and effectiveness on your hair after you reduced to this dosage. I think I would like to make a switch and every time I think of doing it I think of your case and your great results.

Thanks man.

i reduced the dose starting the 3rd month and u can see from pics that during 3rd month of treatment is when i got better i´m into 4th and keep seeing results so, lowering the dose didnt afect my recovery the benefits of reducing the dose were no more brain fog and improved endurance in sports and gym no more watery semen better libido ...uhm just that. besides finas which helped me a lot , what i think helped me more was the shampoo with keto+salicilic acid , i completely god rid of sebum , i allways had the sebum problem and shampoo put an end to it...

cheers..

g k
02-11-2010, 09:45 PM
i reduced the dose starting the 3rd month and u can see from pics that during 3rd month of treatment is when i got better i´m into 4th and keep seeing results so, lowering the dose didnt afect my recovery the benefits of reducing the dose were no more brain fog and improved endurance in sports and gym no more watery semen better libido ...uhm just that. besides finas which helped me a lot , what i think helped me more was the shampoo with keto+salicilic acid , i completely god rid of sebum , i allways had the sebum problem and shampoo put an end to it...

cheers..


Thanks for the info. Given your success you are a valuable resource for info. I am using a keto shampoo but I will definitely switch to one with salicilic acid as well.

Thanks for taking the time.

fred970
02-12-2010, 06:45 AM
Where can I find a Keto shampoo with salicilic acid in it?

g k
02-12-2010, 08:11 AM
Where can I find a Keto shampoo with salicilic acid in it?

I just ordered some from Dr. Lee at http://www.minoxidil.com/

It is only about $1-2 more than I pay for regular keto shampoo here in Canada. It is the same ammount aswell (120ml =4 ounces)

I think it is normally a prescription shampoo.

Hope that helps.

rotsen182
02-12-2010, 09:37 PM
I just ordered some from Dr. Lee at http://www.minoxidil.com/

It is only about $1-2 more than I pay for regular keto shampoo here in Canada. It is the same ammount aswell (120ml =4 ounces)

I think it is normally a prescription shampoo.

Hope that helps.

i just saw the shampoo as Regrowth Treatment Shampoo. i wonder why not more people use the keto+saliclic acid combo. it really works for me.

i think im gonna start a new thread with the info u just provided since it seems that dr.Lee is selling it "keto+salicilic acid shampoo"

g k
02-17-2010, 12:10 PM
I am waiting for my shampoo in the mail, and I am about to switch down to 1/6th pill. I hope to have less sides.

Please keep me updated on how 1/6th pill is working for you.

rotsen182
03-03-2010, 05:26 AM
a little update i just completed 4th month of treatment with such good results , lowered the dose to 1/5 of 5mg generic finasteride keto2% salicilic acid3% shampoo 5 times a week and minox .5ml twice a day , sides went away for good, let my hair grow, be posting new pics very soon ....

Big 3 Rock........

Winston
03-03-2010, 11:48 AM
a little update i just completed 4th month of treatment with such good results , lowered the dose to 1/5 of 5mg generic finasteride keto2% salicilic acid3% shampoo 5 times a week and minox .5ml twice a day , sides went away for good, let my hair grow, be posting new pics very soon ....

Big 3 Rock........

Good for you rotsen. Your results are inspiring. Thanks for posting your updates for all of us!

nassau
03-03-2010, 10:45 PM
What big three are you refering to? Propecia, Rogain, and the lasercomb? I have just started Propecia 2 weeks ago and I hope I have results as good as yours.

rotsen182
03-04-2010, 05:17 AM
actually , finasteride , minoxidil 5% and the most important ketokenazol 2% shampoo.

iubball22
03-04-2010, 05:41 PM
lookin good, man...where'd you get your generic finasteride?

rotsen182
03-04-2010, 05:49 PM
generic 5mg finasteride pharma check labs from india 30 pills for 35$us cut a pill in 6 1 box lasts for 6 months

iubball22
03-05-2010, 01:42 PM
Is that an online pharmacy?

rotsen182
03-23-2010, 08:56 PM
a little update after 5 months of treatment, finally the top is filling up, hope it gets full soon, no more sides after lowering the dose to .7mg minox .5ml twice a day and keto+salicilic shampoo 5 times a week..

cheers

Big 3 Rock

Frustrated23
04-01-2010, 02:21 PM
I just ordered some from Dr. Lee at http://www.minoxidil.com/

It is only about $1-2 more than I pay for regular keto shampoo here in Canada. It is the same ammount aswell (120ml =4 ounces)

I think it is normally a prescription shampoo.

Hope that helps.

It says you have to have a consultation with Dr. Lee first before ordering, is that true?

KeepTheHair
04-01-2010, 02:36 PM
Wow that is amazing!

Can you make a good list of everything that has worked for you, please?

Did you only use products? No transplant?

Looks great

rotsen182
04-01-2010, 03:21 PM
Wow that is amazing!

Can you make a good list of everything that has worked for you, please?

Did you only use products? No transplant?

Looks great

i think that what really worked for me was getting rid of sebum, i allways had Seborrheic dermatitis and no shampoo seemed to stop it until i found keto+salicilic acid shampoo tanxs to hairloss forums .

first get Seborrheic dermatitis under control then u can use minox 5% to regrow and take a low dose of finas to stop hair from falling, depending on age and level of baldness in 6 months u should see some results, in my case it was faster , i dont know why but i think the key is gettin sebum under control..

cheers

Big 3 rock..

KeepTheHair
04-01-2010, 03:33 PM
Sebum?

I am 20 years old and I still have a decent amount of my hair, I dont have any bald spots but my hair looks better than yours in your first pic i think. But i have way way more receding temples and a baldspot forming...almost..



What shampoo is best, and where do I get it?


Please help lol I am soo desperate.


Is anything on this website good? http://www.minoxidil.com


I already bought some Rogaine 5% extra strength from another website. I am thinking of getting finasteride and the shampoo on that website, is it ok?

rotsen182
04-01-2010, 03:41 PM
Sebum?

I am 20 years old and I still have a decent amount of my hair, I dont have any bald spots but my hair looks better than yours in your first pic i think. But i have way way more receding temples and a baldspot forming...almost..



What shampoo is best, and where do I get it?


Please help lol I am soo desperate.


Is anything on this website good? http://www.minoxidil.com


I already bought some Rogaine 5% extra strength from another website. I am thinking of getting finasteride and the shampoo on that website, is it ok?

dont get on finas yet , u r so young and if u still have good density of hair you can try the shampoo only, sebum is the waxy substance in ur scalp , try this.

dont wash your hair for 2 days. then pass ur fingernail tru ur scalp if u get someting like wax then u have sebum , it makes your hair weaker and with the time kills follicle, besides , minox will have no efect until u get rid of it..
since you are so young and have good amount of hair i would recomend to try keto shampoo at least for 6 months before jumping on finasteride..

Frustrated23
04-01-2010, 03:44 PM
rotsen182,

Where have you purchased your keto+sa shampoo? I have seborrheic dermatitis as well and have been looking for a shampoo that works good. thanks.

KeepTheHair
04-01-2010, 03:44 PM
Where do I get that shampoo? What about other shampoos like head and shoulders and stuff?

KeepTheHair
04-01-2010, 03:46 PM
rotsen182, my hair is due to genetics and definitely DHT. I have miniturization. You had overall loss.

I have to get finasteride, no choice for me.

KeepTheHair
04-01-2010, 03:46 PM
rotsen182,

Where have you purchased your keto+sa shampoo? I have seborrheic dermatitis as well and have been looking for a shampoo that works good. thanks.

I think this website sells some of the stuff he is talking about


http://www.minoxidil.com/subpages/products/products.php

Frustrated23
04-01-2010, 03:48 PM
that stuff sells the shampoo, but says I have to have a consultation with Dr. Lee before I'm allowed to order anything. He's in California, I'm in NY, I would like to try to avoid going to California.

rotsen182
04-01-2010, 03:53 PM
just go to your local pharmacy and ask for ketokenazole 2% shampoo same with minoxidil 5% i think u dont need a prescription for that. if u have DHT there is no other choice than finas. sometimes i use H&S shampoo using the keto shampoo everyday makes my hair a mess, but the scalp remains clean..
i think in the US is hard to get a shampoo like that without a prescription or consultation with a doctor, some guy told me that he bought the regular shampoo Nizoral i think is the name and add two aspirins..

KeepTheHair
04-01-2010, 03:53 PM
What? really?


I was planning on getting the shampoo and finasteride there.

It says I can enter all my details etc?

Did you click place order? or what?


Why did it not work?

KeepTheHair
04-01-2010, 03:54 PM
What do you guys think of that minoxidil 6% that contains 0.1 finas ont he front page?

http://www.minoxidil.com/subpages/products/popupimage.php?image=768_minoxidil_6percent-plus_small.jpg


is it worth getting?

Frustrated23
04-01-2010, 03:56 PM
What? really?


I was planning on getting the shampoo and finasteride there.

It says I can enter all my details etc?

Did you click place order? or what?


Why did it not work?

This is the email I got after I placed an order for some of the keto shampoo

"*If you have not completed a medical consultation with Dr. Lee, your order will be canceled, and all credit card information destroyed. You may reorder again, after you have completed a consultation with Dr. Lee. For a consultation please contact regrowth@minoxidil.com."

-So either today or tomorrow I will find out if the order went through or not

KeepTheHair
04-01-2010, 04:00 PM
That sucks...

I dont live in america. Do you tihnk I will get the same messagE?

g k
04-01-2010, 04:10 PM
That sucks...

I dont live in america. Do you tihnk I will get the same messagE?

No, it is only in the US that you require the consultation.

There is no hard evidence that showed that topical finasteride works. I would save my money if I were you and just take oral fin, and generic kirkland minox(you can get a 12 month supply for 30$ on ebay).

KeepTheHair
04-01-2010, 04:26 PM
Why save money? I will get the oral finas together with it?

or is that not allowed?

I already bought normal rogaine from minoxidilshop.com.

now I want to get finasteride from this store together with that shampoo.

Why kirkland minoxidil? cheap? I will try it after I tried the real stuff maybe.


Can topical finas be used with oral 1mg?

Frustrated23
04-01-2010, 04:32 PM
just go to your local pharmacy and ask for ketokenazole 2% shampoo same with minoxidil 5% i think u dont need a prescription for that. if u have DHT there is no other choice than finas. sometimes i use H&S shampoo using the keto shampoo everyday makes my hair a mess, but the scalp remains clean..
i think in the US is hard to get a shampoo like that without a prescription or consultation with a doctor, some guy told me that he bought the regular shampoo Nizoral i think is the name and add two aspirins..

Is there a particular name of the shampoo you use?

g k
04-01-2010, 04:55 PM
Why save money? I will get the oral finas together with it?

or is that not allowed?

I already bought normal rogaine from minoxidilshop.com.

now I want to get finasteride from this store together with that shampoo.

Why kirkland minoxidil? cheap? I will try it after I tried the real stuff maybe.


Can topical finas be used with oral 1mg?

Yeah they can be used together, but the only evidence that topical works is that it gets absorbed systemically. So you might as well just take it orally with generic minox.

U can spend tons of money on fancy tonics if u wants but it will be exactly the same as oral fin and generic minox. Plus fin has a near flat dose rate, meaning that any dose from .2mg to 5mg has nearly the same effectiveness.

Just pop the pill and put on regular minox and be consistent with it. Dont get lazy and miss days or whatever and you should see good to great results.

KeepTheHair
04-01-2010, 05:29 PM
yeah will do. sucks i have to wait for the orders to arrive...

g k
04-01-2010, 05:40 PM
yeah will do. sucks i have to wait for the orders to arrive...

Good luck with it all. It really is a test of patience, but I saw results very very quickly and I managed to regrow my frontal hairline. Very impressive stuff.

Choose a modest dosage like .5mg fin, and 2x daily minox, and just give it atleast 6 months. Dont impulsively change the dosage.

good luck.

KeepTheHair
04-01-2010, 10:28 PM
"Thank you for your order.

If your credit card information is viable and your medical records are on file with Dr. Lee,* the order will leave Dr. Lee's Whittier, California office on our next business day."



Got that message and email after my purchase. I wonder if I will get the stuff...


Probably not. But how can they expect a guy from another country to have a consult. wtf

Hope I get the stuff.

g k
04-01-2010, 10:34 PM
"Thank you for your order.

If your credit card information is viable and your medical records are on file with Dr. Lee,* the order will leave Dr. Lee's Whittier, California office on our next business day."



Got that message and email after my purchase. I wonder if I will get the stuff...


Probably not. But how can they expect a guy from another country to have a consult. wtf

Hope I get the stuff.

If you are not in the US you will get it. He actually has sneaky ways of labeling stuff, so the fin looks like its a cosmetic product for stronger hair and nails...haha

KeepTheHair
04-02-2010, 12:20 AM
lol.


Good news for me.


Why does he need to label weird though? It is totally legal.

g k
04-02-2010, 08:36 AM
lol.


Good news for me.


Why does he need to label weird though? It is totally legal.

I don't know. Must be some loophole. It can't be legal to ship prescription meds to other countries.

KeepTheHair
04-02-2010, 11:34 AM
Ok, so now I totally don't understand. If it is not legal. Then how can the guy have a totally public website that says he ships to other countries and so on.

Cyberdyne
04-03-2010, 07:06 PM
hey guys, i also suffer from serraboa dermatitis (ive had it since i was a kid) and I believe this has contributed to my thinning hair. it was only a couple of yrs ago i found Nizoral which contains Ketoconazole 2%. it cleared me up big time. you can buy the stuff off the shelf at your pharmacy for around 15 bucks. i use it twice a week and use a volumizing shampoo in between. has helped me a great deal.

it doesnt contain sclylictic acid or whatever was mentioned earlier tho, but i think the important ingredient is the Ketoconazole.
it smells pretty good too - much better than tar shampoos i used in the past where my hair smelled like BBQ afterward. hahaha

rotsen182
04-03-2010, 07:40 PM
Salicylic acid is used to treat many skin disorders, such as acne, dandruff, psoriasis, seborrheic dermatitis of the skin and scalp, calluses, corns, common warts, and plantar warts, depending on the dosage form and strength of the preparation ...

some people add it to ketokenazol shampoo to enhance effectiveness